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from: Adam
date: 2007-02-01 17:21:30
subject: Re: Users Upset at Outlook HTML Change

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Rich wrote:
>    The functionality to filter Office attributes is built into Word.  Adam is
being deceptive.

No I'm not otherwise we wouldn't need the code.

Word produces horrific html with sh*tloads of crap in it. I'm not going to
post the whole class but the loops & hoops & checks are
astonishing.


> The bit he is stripping is standard HTML and CSS, not one of the standards
compliant Office attributes that use XML namespaces.

Std HTML & CSS by arse. IE doesn't handle std CSS so how likely is it
that word would produce something which wouldn't be rendered by IE?

Adam



> Rich
>
>   "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
news:45c21be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>   I believe MS has a free download of doc template that if loaded with word
>   filters the saving of html files and strips out the MSOffice stuff.  I have
>   the filter, but haven't had the occasion to use it so don't know how well
it
>   works.  Its available as an add-on/utility on the MS Office section of
>   Microsoft.com.  Its called something like htmfilter.dot or just Filter.dot.
>
>   Gary
>
>   Ad wrote:
>   > Mike N. wrote:
>   >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:07:49 -0500, mike
 wrote:
>   >>
>   >>> Redmond explains its decision as such: "A big
thing we heard from
>   >>> customers is that they wanted the richness of the
editing experience
>   >>> they were used to from Word integrated throughout Outlook. While
>   >>> Internet Explorer 7.0 is great, it was never intended
to be an editing
>   >>> tool," it said in a Knowledge Base article.
>   >>
>   >>    They're not living in the real world.   I've never heard
anyone say
"I
>   >> want to add some Word crap to my email message".
>   >
>   > tell me about it we have to absorb "Word-ML" from old
Word docs (i.e.
>   > save the file as HTML & then post to an auto-munging
servlet wot turns
>   > it into proper XHTML so we can incorporate it into XML model files...
>   >
>   >
>   > & it was painful beyond belief......including such lovely bit as :
>   >
>   > // set all class atts with MsoNormal to empty string
>   >         // //.[{at}class='MsoNormal']/{at}class
>   >
>   >         String xpathQ = "//.[{at}class='MsoNormal']/{at}class";
>   >         List attribs = XMLUtil.getNodesListXpathDoc(xpathQ, xmlSource);
>   >         for (Iterator it = attribs.iterator(); it.hasNext();) {
>   >             Node node = (Node) it.next();
>   >             node.setNodeValue("");
>   >         }
>   >
>   >
>   > Adam

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