From: "Geo." 

I don't know "OneCare" what was it's previous name?

Anyway, I got an error message the other day from one of my apps, it said
it couldn't modify the windows firewall (because I've disabled it) which I
thought was pretty funny. IMO apps are not supposed to change my firewall
settings, I mean what other reason is there to run a firewall when I'm
sitting behind a NAT device..

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:45bc1d82$1{at}w3.nls.net...
   No.  Microsoft has provided an outbound firewall in various forms for
years.  Windows Live OneCare and Windows Vista both provide a consumer
level one.  Windows Vista provides enterprise level features as well in the
same firewall.  Still, except for anal folks like some of those here, most
people don't really use these at least not how described here.

   We discussed the OneCare outbound filtering in detail earlier.  You can
go back and look it up.  I'm sure you put it out of your mind because you
prefer to believe what you want to.

   I wouldn't trust any outbound filtering for malware on an infected
machine.  The infected machine enforces what to allow or not and since the
machine is infected you can't trust it.  I could trust one to implement
policy for non-malicious applications.

   Your repeated phone home noise is as boring as it is bogus.  Find
something interesting and relevant to say instead.

Rich


  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bc195e{at}w3.nls.net...
  Exactly, why do we need an outbound firewall when we have the built in 10
  baby per second law MS has forced on vista users.. Lets software phone
home
  and keeps the baby count down, the perfect solution to a nonexistent
  requirement.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bc1a20{at}w3.nls.net...
     It isn't birth control methods being rated as it ignores how the
firewall
  protects against incoming traffic, the primary purpose for which most
people
  want and use a firewall.  The ratings here are those for once pregnant,
how
  well do you keep the baby from escaping.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bc18fa$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I have to enable cookies to view their firewall ratings? This is sort of
    like a site saying you have to have unprotected sex with us before you
can
    see how we rate birth control methods..

    Geo.

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5