On 30 Mar 2005 08:50:05 -0800, "Hyerdahl"  wrote:

>
>Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
>> On 29 Mar 2005 08:17:01 -0800, "Hyerdahl"
 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >JerryWong wrote:
>> >> The fundamental theorem of men and women is as follows:
>> >>
>> >> Part 1
>> >> Every woman needs a man but not every man needs a woman.
>> >
>> >That doesn't make much sense to me, since women are...today...doing
>> >everything men are doing PLUS they can gestate their own family,
>quite
>> >without any particular man.  She is the unit.  He is the other.
>
>> Not in my office, Puke.
>
>Ah, but IN mine, Dave Sim.  :-)



Come off it, Puke.  You have no credibility on employment-related
anecdotes.

Your employment history changes every time you talk about it.

Go on, where are you working this time?



>> We got something like 12 assignments and eight men and four women to
>> fill them.  Except that the four women are always out on maternity
>> leave and/or sick leave or whatever, and the eight of us are always
>> scrambling to cover for them.
>
>So, get rid of them.  :-)



And don't give me that crap either.  You don't believe that a man ever
ever ever has the right to get rid of a woman.



>> In my office, women really aren't doing anything OTHER THAN gestating
>> or finding other reasons to take off work, and I suspect that's the
>> way it is in other offices.
>>
>Suspect away, but that doesn't mean that my neice will be darning your
>nephew's socks any time soon.  :-)




I'll take that chance.




> >You have not offered any "empirical evidence", and my
evidence will
>> >clearly show that women can and do exist without men.  My evidence
>is
>> >widows.  Widows all over the world raise their families without a
>man
>> >as head of that family.
>> >
>> >  On the other hand, many> men over the ages have had spectacular
>> >results in the fields of medicine, math and physics not to mention
>> >chemistry without the meddling of women.
>> >
>> >Women scientists, chemists and physicists don't particularly care
>> >whether or not you want them there.
>>
>> Well, you see, Puke; that's not quite true.
>
>Sure it is Dave Sim.
>
>> Women who file sex discrimination lawsuits - and as you know, there
>> are quite a number of them that are filed - inevitably include among
>> their language the allegation that the men in the office or some male
>> supervisor created a "hostile work environment" directed
toward the
>> female plaintiff.
>>
>> What those women are saying, of course, is that they care very
>> passionately and very deeply about what their male colleagues think
>> about them - and, of course, employers are often compelled to spend
>> money on "sensitivity training" to change such allegedly hostile
>> attitudes.
>>
>> So yes, Puke; those female scientists and chemists care very much
>> about what JerryWong thinks about them, and so do you.
>>
>Nah.  It's all handled within our social policy these days, Dave.


Nah, that's a non sequitur, Puke.

You can't maintain both that women do care about what men think about
them and that women DON'T care about what men think about them because
both those propositions can't be true at the same time.


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