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from: NETHERHOLT
date: 1998-04-10 00:20:00
subject: Scope on pump gun

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>>I have a Crosman 140, a 147, and a Benjamin 347.  I like 'em, but the poor
sights take a lot of the edge off the fun (re:  only accurate guns are fun).
I
might be able to figure out how to put a peep sight on them, but my 
oon-to-be
50 year old eyes don't even handle peeps as well as they used to.  No, the
answer seems to be mounting a modest scope of some kind.<<  
>>This brings up a chronic problem with these type of pump-up airguns.<<  
>>1.)  If you use the clamp-on-the-barrel-with-scope-grooves type mount, the
scope will tend to be too far forward if it's a standard rifle scope.  If you
get the scope back far enough to use, it's pretty well cantilevered off the
mounts that are somewhere in front of the receiver.  Not the optimal 
t-up.<<
>>2.)  Perhaps this clamp-on-the-barrel type of mount with a pistol scope
would
be better?  Kind of like a scout gun with the scope half-way up the barrel?
Has anyone tried this?<<
>>3.)  If one uses a clamp-over-the-receiver type mount, it gets the rifle
scope
back where it can be used, but the scope then takes the place where my hand
wants to be when I'm putting three to eight pumps in the gun.  Makes it less
tempting to shoot more than just a little bit.<<
>>What are all the genius' on this service doing about their multi-pump
pneumatic
sights???<<
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Dean,
I have not seen any suggestions, comments or answers to your question on the
Airgun List as to the best way to mount a scope on a pump-up rifle.  I'm no
genius, in fact I don't even own a pump-up gun, but I do have a suggestion.
After having read the article on the Gamo Electronic Ret dot sight in 
Mar/Apr
U.S. Airgun I just mounted an Adco Vantage V1 red dot electronic sight on my
IZH-46 pistol and love it. 
What I didn't know about red dot sights is that they work at about any
distance from your eye from 6 to 30 inches.  My target sighting is about the
same whether the pistol is up close to my face with my left elbow tucked into
my body or with my right arm fully extended.  I also discovered that my
ordinary glasses work great with this red dot sight.  Don't have to worry
about focusing on a front sight while keeping the rear sight and the target 
n
semi good focus and aligning all three for a proper sight picture.  Just put
the dot on the bull and pull.
My guess is that a red dot sight would work well on your pump-up rifle/rifles
regardless where it was placed on the gun.  However, I have used mine only on
targets at 10 to 20 meters away.  Since the red dot sights don't magnify the
target,  a distance shot might be hard if the dot itself covers up the 
arget.
If you were to handle one (a quality red dot sight) in a store you could
determine whether it would work in just a few moments.  The brighter you make
the dot, the bigger in size it seems to appear.
If my suggestion is way off base or not practical I'm sure we will hear about
it.
Walter Holt
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