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date: 2005-03-31 00:50:00
subject: Re: Women pay painful price for equal military training Bwaa

"MCP"  wrote in message
news:Crz2e.147$r47.89{at}fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> http://women.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,17909-1536288,00.html
>
>             By Michael Evans, Defence Editor
>
>
>
>             YOUNG female recruits to the Armed Forces are not tough enough
> to be treated on a par with their male colleagues, a report claimed
> yesterday.
>             Too many young women were being injured in training, the
> independent Adult Learning Inspectorate said, and called for a rethink of
> the "gender-free" policy. The previous
"gender-fair" policy, which took
> account of the "weaker sex", was reckoned to be contrary to equal
> opportunities legislation.
>
>
>
> In a report that criticised much of the culture behind Armed Forces'
> training, the inspectorate, which carried out checks on all the training
> establishments, said that the military's interpretation was to treat
> everyone the same. In the case of female recruits, the gender-free
approach
> had led to record levels of injuries.

Which the taxpayers(mostly men) have to pay for in the form of medical
treatment and pensions.



> It recommended reverting to gender-fair training. The injuries had also
> coincided with the fact that recruits often joined the Armed Forces
"unfit,
> overweight or poorly nourished".

That applies almost entirely to lard assed females. Check the height and
weights of the men and females entering the services.



>
> In women, fractures of the tibia (shin bone) had risen over a five-year
> period from 12.6 per 10,000 personnel to 231.2. Stress fractures of the
feet
> also increased significantly among female recruits.
>
> During the gender-fair period of training, which ended in 1998, female
> trainees suffered 467 injuries per 10,000, compared with 118 among their
> male colleagues. After gender-free training was introduced, men's injuries
> rose to 147, but women's injuries went up to 1,113 per 10,000.
>
> After the publication of the inspectorate's report, which was commissioned
> by the Ministry of Defence to examine training across the Services,
> Lieutenant-General Anthony Palmer, Deputy Chief of Defence Staff
> (personnel), said that the issue of gender-free training was being
reviewed.
>
> The report said that the problem of injuries in the Services had been
> "exacerbated by change from a gender-fair policy, in which women were set
> training goals appropriate to their physique, to a gender-free approach,
> prompted erroneously by a conviction that equality of opportunity demands
>  it".
>
> When gender-free training was introduced in 1998, the Government declared
> that it was another step in efforts to provide equality of opportunity for
> all. The old system, which required men to run 1.5 miles in 13min 15sec
but
> allowed women 15min 15sec,

I can walk that in less time  lol



 was perceived to be no longer legally defensible
> on the grounds of discrimination.
>
> General Palmer said that it was the Services' responsibility to ensure
> proper duty of care for all trainees, including "protecting them from
>  injury".
>
> Military sources said that a reversal to the gender-fair approach was
> unlikely to affect the promotion prospects for female officers, because
they
> required "more brain than brawn". For non-commissioned officers, there
might
> be fewer openings for jobs that needed physical strength. Seventy per cent
> of jobs in the Army are open currently to women.
>
> Last week the Commons Defence Committee issued a critical report into the
> duty of care after four young recruits died at the Deepcut barracks.
>
> ON REPORT: HOW ARMY TRAINING CAMPS FAILED
>
>
> a.. Stereotyping of gender, nationality and race, inappropriate language
and
> too lax an attitude towards harassment and bullying were "still too widely
> accepted". Pin-ups were still displayed
> a.. At some training centres poor work was punished by locker-trashing. At
> the Royal Marines' establishment at Lympstone, Devon, trivial offences
were
> punished with "tanking" - being forced to jump into an outdoor tank of
murky
> water
> a.. Significantly more army personnel under 20 committed suicide than in
the
> Royal Navy and the RAF. General Palmer said it was due to higher numbers
of
> less well-educated recruits
> a.. Decisions at the top about bullying and harassment were "too loosely
> connected to what happens on the ground"
> a.. Some barracks were "little better than slums"
> a.. At Catterick, North Yorkshire, inspectors found unguarded weapons in
> recruits' sleeping quarters during meals and live rounds routinely
discarded
> in undergrowth in exercise areas
> a.. Fewer than half of instructors received training; some saw the job as
no
> more than "baby-sitting"
>
> --
> Men are everywhere that matters!
>
>
>




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