From: "Rich" 

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   Good that you now acknowledge that the HTML is standards compliant.  =
I'm surprised you suggest non-compliance with a hack like "if no class
= set assume MsoNormal upon rendering".  You're really being a
hypocrite = here.

   Word 2003 uses XML namespaces as you should have noticed from the =
HTML element

  http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">

I'm surprised you haven't seen this if you have actually done any work = on
this content.  Maybe you are just lying.

Rich

  "Ad"  wrote in message =
news:45c2e695{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    Keep lying if it makes you feel better.=20

  I'm not lying, you're spinning. I'm sure you're going to keep =
spinning.=20
  I have no idea if a constantly changing velocity makes you feel =
better.

    The class attribute, the one
  > you are deleting in your example, is standard HTML.  See=20
  > http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2.
  > =20

  Duuuuhhhh I know that. It's more the fact that every damn element has=20
  MsoNormal on it. For no damn reason. Increases the size of the file by =

  quite a margin (esp when added up with all the other MS/Word crap =
which=20
  gets shoved it).

  Instead MS could have taken an "if no class set assume MsoNormal upon=20
  rendering" but noooooo instead let's decorate like a looney using his=20
  own faeces.


  As such were one to try & bring this word created crap in unfiltered=20
  then your XML files would grow with loads of completely superfluous=20
  MsoNormal class attributes.



  >    Word produces fine HTML with XML namespaces used to define =
additional=20
  > attributes to support persistance of additional information not=20
  > supported by HTML.=20

  Ho hum. (A) Which Word? We're mostly on 2003 with other versions =
dotted=20
  about. (B) I don't suppose you have a nice & simple way in which all=20
  those copies of word can be set to save as std XHTML & nothing more?

  Nice & clean XHTML. No silly MsoNormal decorating etc.


  > Are you going to claim that XML namespaces and=20
  > namespace qualified tags and attributes are wrong? =20

  ROFLMAO Here comes the Spin. Divert onto another question & then start =

  asking vacuous questions about that area to move the debate away from=20
  the area in question.

  > Do you make the same=20
  > claims about all applications of XML or just those you won't to =
wrongly=20
  > disparage?
  > =20

  & yet further from the area in question. I am disappointed that you're =

  not asking about the origins of the moon.

  Adam
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   Good that you now =
acknowledge that the=20
HTML is standards compliant.  I'm surprised you suggest =
non-compliance with=20
a hack like "if no class set = assume=20
MsoNormal upon rendering".  You're really being
a hypocrite=20 here.
 
   Word 2003
uses XML =
namespaces as you=20
should have noticed from the HTML element
 

  <html=20
  =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"xmlns:w=3D"urn:sch=
emas-microsoft-com:office:word"xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40<" target="new">http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40<=">http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40<=
/A>">
 
I'm surprised you haven't seen this if =
you have=20
actually done any work on this content.  Maybe you are just=20
lying.
 
Rich
 

  "Ad" <Dobbin{at}theStablesC=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin{at}theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com>=20
  wrote in message news:45c2e695{at}w3.nls.net...Ri=
ch=20
  wrote:>    Keep lying if it
makes you feel =
better.=20
  I'm not lying, you're spinning. I'm sure you're going
to keep=20
  spinning. I have no idea if a constantly changing velocity makes =
you feel=20
  better.  The class attribute, the
one> you are =
deleting in=20
  your example, is standard HTML.  See > http://w" target="new">http://w=">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2">http://w=
ww.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2.> =20
  Duuuuhhhh I know that. It's more the fact that every damn =
element has=20
  MsoNormal on it. For no damn reason. Increases the size of the =
file by=20
  quite a margin (esp when added up with all the other MS/Word crap =
which=20
  gets shoved it).Instead MS could have taken
an "if no =
class set=20
  assume MsoNormal upon rendering" but noooooo instead let's =
decorate like a=20
  looney using his own faeces.As
such were one to try =
&=20
  bring this word created crap in unfiltered then your XML files =
would grow=20
  with loads of completely superfluous MsoNormal class=20
 
attributes.>   
Word produces fine =
HTML with=20
  XML namespaces used to define additional > attributes to =
support=20
  persistance of additional information not > supported by HTML.=20
  Ho hum. (A) Which Word? We're mostly on 2003 with other =
versions=20
  dotted about. (B) I don't suppose you have a nice & simple way =
in=20
  which all those copies of word can be set to save as std XHTML =
&=20
  nothing more?Nice & clean XHTML. No silly MsoNormal =
decorating=20
  etc.> Are you going to claim that
XML namespaces and =
>=20
  namespace qualified tags and attributes are wrong?  =
ROFLMAO Here=20
  comes the Spin. Divert onto another question & then start =
asking=20
  vacuous questions about that area to move the debate away from the =
area in=20
  question.> Do you make the same
> claims about all=20
  applications of XML or just those you won't to wrongly >=20
  disparage?>  & yet
further from the area in =
question.=20
  I am disappointed that you're not asking about the origins of the=20
  moon.Adam

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