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to: Geo.
from: Rich
date: 2007-01-27 19:50:24
subject: Re: Software firewalls

From: "Rich" 

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   No.  Microsoft has provided an outbound firewall in various forms for =
years.  Windows Live OneCare and Windows Vista both provide a consumer =
level one.  Windows Vista provides enterprise level features as well in =
the same firewall.  Still, except for anal folks like some of those = here,
most people don't really use these at least not how described = here.

   We discussed the OneCare outbound filtering in detail earlier.  You =
can go back and look it up.  I'm sure you put it out of your mind = because
you prefer to believe what you want to.

   I wouldn't trust any outbound filtering for malware on an infected =
machine.  The infected machine enforces what to allow or not and since =
the machine is infected you can't trust it.  I could trust one to =
implement policy for non-malicious applications.

   Your repeated phone home noise is as boring as it is bogus.  Find =
something interesting and relevant to say instead.

Rich


  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bc195e{at}w3.nls.net...
  Exactly, why do we need an outbound firewall when we have the built in =
10=20
  baby per second law MS has forced on vista users.. Lets software phone =
home=20
  and keeps the baby count down, the perfect solution to a nonexistent=20
  requirement.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bc1a20{at}w3.nls.net...
     It isn't birth control methods being rated as it ignores how the =
firewall=20
  protects against incoming traffic, the primary purpose for which most =
people=20
  want and use a firewall.  The ratings here are those for once =
pregnant, how=20
  well do you keep the baby from escaping.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45bc18fa$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I have to enable cookies to view their firewall ratings? This is =
sort of
    like a site saying you have to have unprotected sex with us before =
you can
    see how we rate birth control methods..

    Geo.

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No.  Microsoft has =
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outbound firewall in various forms for years.  Windows Live OneCare = and=20
Windows Vista both provide a consumer level one.  Windows Vista =
provides=20
enterprise level features as well in the same firewall.  Still, =
except for=20
anal folks like some of those here, most people don't really use these = at least=20
not how described here.
 
   We
discussed the OneCare =
outbound=20
filtering in detail earlier.  You can go back and look it
up.  = I'm=20
sure you put it out of your mind because you prefer to believe what you = want=20
to.
 
   I
wouldn't trust any =
outbound=20
filtering for malware on an infected machine.  The infected machine =

enforces what to allow or not and since the machine is infected you = can't trust=20
it.  I could trust one to implement policy for non-malicious=20
applications.
 
   Your
repeated phone home =
noise is as=20
boring as it is bogus.  Find something interesting and relevant to = say=20
instead.
 
Rich
 
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45bc195e{at}w3.nls.net...Ex=
actly,=20
  why do we need an outbound firewall when we have the built in 10 =
baby per=20
  second law MS has forced on vista users.. Lets software phone home =
and=20
  keeps the baby count down, the perfect solution to a nonexistent=20
 
requirement.Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message =
news:45bc1a20{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  It isn't birth control methods being rated as it ignores how the =
firewall=20
  protects against incoming traffic, the primary purpose for which =
most=20
  people want and use a firewall.  The ratings here are those =
for once=20
  pregnant, how well do you keep the baby from=20
  escaping.Rich 
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:45bc18fa$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  I have to enable cookies to view their firewall ratings? This is sort=20
  of  like a site saying you have to have unprotected sex with =
us=20
  before you can  see how we rate birth control =
methods.. =20
  Geo.

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