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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Rich
date: 2007-01-26 22:00:16
subject: Re: IBM, Nokia, Sun Microsystems, Adobe, Oracle and Red Hat say Vista

From: "Rich" 

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   WPF/E is a subset of WPF.  This is clear if you follow the links I =
provided.

   I don't see the relevance of your quote from the WPF/E mac download.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45bae8eb{at}w3.nls.net...
  I just saw a Bill Gates Interview ( link below ) from Sept which seems =
to imply that Windows Presentation Foundation for Mac will be a subset = of
what runs under Vista. Am I in error in that assumption?  I've seen = other
comments ( expecially from Flash supporters ) that claim something =
similar.



  =
http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-ed84-4f7=
8-ab48-7b69d4bce047
  BG: The Mac is one of the targets that we explicitly talked about, so =
yes. Now it's not 100 percent of XAML, we need to be clear on that. But =
the portion of XAML we've picked here will be everywhere. Absolutely =
everywhere. And it has to be. You've got to have, for at least reading, =
and even some level of animation, you've got to have pervasiveness. And =
will there be multiple things that fit into that niche? Probably. = Because
it's not that hard to carry multiple...you as a user don't even = know when
you're seeing something that's WPF/E versus Flash versus = whatever. It
just works.


  I've pasted a portion of your Microsoft XAML Mac link below.  =20

  ---------
  "WPF/E" (codename) is a browser enhancement module that enables =
browsers to render rich content in addition to HTML. 'WPF/E" is =
compatible with both the Safari browser and Firefox 1.5.0.8 on MacOSX =
10.4.8. The Dec 2006 CTP will expire on February 18, 2007 at which point =
when a web page that uses it is rendered, it will prompt the user to =
update to the latest version. "WPF/E" (codename) will
periodically ping = Microsoft.com to verify its integrity (at which point
the only = information that will be communicated will be your IP address
and the = module version).

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45badd95$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Obviously bogus claims like this don't help their clearly biased =
propaganda win over anyone that isn't already biased as they are.  Maybe =
these guys should have fact checked their propaganda to exclude all but =
their subjective claims that they could always spin as needed when =
questioned.

       FWIW, if you want to view XAML on the Macintosh, visit =
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A00C-F7BB-=
459A-9DA2-F1DB6297277F&displaylang=3Den then http://www.msdn.com/wpfe =
for samples. =20

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45bab1c8$1{at}w3.nls.net...



      It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to =
replace HTML",=20
      the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet. =
XAML would=20
      be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory against systems such =
as Linux,=20
      the group said.

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   WPF/E is
a subset of =
WPF.  This=20
is clear if you follow the links I provided.
 
   I don't
see the relevance =
of your=20
quote from the WPF/E mac download.
 
Rich
 
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:45bae8eb{at}w3.nls.net... I just saw a Bill Gates Interview ( = link below )=20 from Sept which seems to imply that Windows Presentation Foundation = for=20 Mac will be a subset of what runs under Vista. Am I in error = in that=20 assumption? I've seen other comments ( expecially from Flash = supporters=20 ) that claim something similar. http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-= ed84-4f78-ab48-7b69d4bce047">http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.= aspx?guid=3Dbb51e92d-ed84-4f78-ab48-7b69d4bce047 BG: The Mac is one of the targets that we = explicitly=20 talked about, so yes. Now it's not 100 percent of XAML, we need to be = clear on=20 that. But the portion of XAML we've picked here will be everywhere. = Absolutely=20 everywhere. And it has to be. You've got to have, for at least = reading, and=20 even some level of animation, you've got to have pervasiveness. And = will there=20 be multiple things that fit into that niche? Probably. Because it's = not that=20 hard to carry multiple...you as a user don't even know when you're = seeing=20 something that's WPF/E versus Flash = versus=20 whatever. It just works. I've pasted a portion of your = Microsoft XAML Mac=20 link below. --------- =93WPF/E=94 = (codename) is a=20 browser enhancement module that enables browsers to render rich = content in=20 addition to HTML. =91WPF/E=94 is compatible with both the Safari = browser and=20 Firefox 1.5.0.8 on MacOSX 10.4.8. The Dec 2006 CTP will expire on = February 18,=20 2007 at which point when a web page that uses it is rendered, it will = prompt=20 the user to update to the latest version. =93WPF/E=94 (codename) will = periodically=20 ping Microsoft.com to verify its integrity (at which point the only=20 information that will be communicated will be your IP address and the = module=20 version).
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:45badd95$1{at}w3.nls.net... Obviously bogus claims = like this=20 don't help their clearly biased propaganda win over anyone that = isn't=20 already biased as they are. Maybe these guys should have fact = checked=20 their propaganda to exclude all but their subjective claims that = they could=20 always spin as needed when questioned. FWIW, if you want to = view XAML on=20 the Macintosh, visit http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A0= 0C-F7BB-459A-9DA2-F1DB6297277F&displaylang=3Den">http://www.microsoft= .com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3D1665A00C-F7BB-459A-9DA2-F1DB629727= 7F&displaylang=3Den then=20 http://www.msdn.com/wpfe for=20" target="new">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe">http://www.msdn.com/wpfe for=20 samples. Rich "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:45bab1c8$1{at}w3.nls.net...It=20 said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace = HTML",=20 the industry standard for publishing documents on the = Internet. XAML=20 would be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory against = systems such=20 as Linux, the group=20 said. ------=_NextPart_000_02BD_01C74195.5C915770-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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