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from: Rich
date: 2007-02-01 09:14:12
subject: Re: Users Upset at Outlook HTML Change

From: "Rich" 

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   The functionality to filter Office attributes is built into Word.  =
Adam is being deceptive.  The bit he is stripping is standard HTML and =
CSS, not one of the standards compliant Office attributes that use XML =
namespaces.

Rich

  "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message =
news:45c21be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  I believe MS has a free download of doc template that if loaded with =
word=20
  filters the saving of html files and strips out the MSOffice stuff.  I =
have=20
  the filter, but haven't had the occasion to use it so don't know how =
well it=20
  works.  Its available as an add-on/utility on the MS Office section of =

  Microsoft.com.  Its called something like htmfilter.dot or just =
Filter.dot.

  Gary

  Ad wrote:
  > Mike N. wrote:
  >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:07:49 -0500, mike  wrote:
  >>
  >>> Redmond explains its decision as such: "A big thing we heard from
  >>> customers is that they wanted the richness of the editing =
experience
  >>> they were used to from Word integrated throughout Outlook. While
  >>> Internet Explorer 7.0 is great, it was never intended to be an =
editing
  >>> tool," it said in a Knowledge Base article.
  >>
  >>    They're not living in the real world.   I've never heard anyone =
say "I
  >> want to add some Word crap to my email message".
  >=20
  > tell me about it we have to absorb "Word-ML" from old Word docs =
(i.e.=20
  > save the file as HTML & then post to an auto-munging servlet wot =
turns=20
  > it into proper XHTML so we can incorporate it into XML model =
files...
  >=20
  >=20
  > & it was painful beyond belief......including such lovely bit as :
  >=20
  > // set all class atts with MsoNormal to empty string
  >         // //.[{at}class=3D'MsoNormal']/{at}class
  >=20
  >         String xpathQ =3D "//.[{at}class=3D'MsoNormal']/{at}class";
  >         List attribs =3D XMLUtil.getNodesListXpathDoc(xpathQ, =
xmlSource);
  >         for (Iterator it =3D attribs.iterator(); it.hasNext();) {
  >             Node node =3D (Node) it.next();
  >             node.setNodeValue("");
  >         }
  >=20
  >=20
  > Adam
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   The
functionality to =
filter Office=20
attributes is built into Word.  Adam is being
deceptive.  = The bit=20
he is stripping is standard HTML and CSS, not one of the standards = compliant=20
Office attributes that use XML namespaces.
 
Rich
 

  "Gary Britt" <GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}genera=">mailto:GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}generalcogster.com">GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}genera=
lcogster.com>=20
  wrote in message news:45c21be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...I=20
  believe MS has a free download of doc template that if loaded with =
word=20
  filters the saving of html files and strips out the MSOffice =
stuff. =20
  I have the filter, but haven't had the occasion to use it so don't =
know=20
  how well it works.  Its available as an add-on/utility on the =
MS=20
  Office section of Microsoft.com.  Its called something like=20
  htmfilter.dot or just
Filter.dot.GaryAd
wrote:> =
Mike N.=20
  wrote:>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:07:49 -0500, mike
<mike{at}barkto.com>=20">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>=20
  wrote:>>>>>
Redmond explains its decision as =
such: "A=20
  big thing we heard from>>> customers is
that they wanted =
the=20
  richness of the editing experience>>> they
were used to =
from Word=20
  integrated throughout Outlook. While>>>
Internet Explorer =
7.0 is=20
  great, it was never intended to be an
editing>>> tool," =
it said=20
  in a Knowledge Base
article.>>>>   
=
They're=20
  not living in the real world.   I've never heard anyone say=20
  "I>> want to add some Word crap to my email =
message".>=20
  > tell me about it we have to absorb "Word-ML"
from old Word =
docs (i.e.=20
  > save the file as HTML & then post to an auto-munging =
servlet wot=20
  turns > it into proper XHTML so we can incorporate it into XML =
model=20
  files...> > >
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  belief......including such lovely bit as :>
> // set all =
class=20
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  //.[{at}class=3D'MsoNormal']/{at}class>=20
 
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Adam

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