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   The EULA doesn't entitle you to a refund for bits and pieces.  If you =
don't want to accept the license you can return the whole computer.  One =
story a year of a guy that persuaded an OEM to give him a credit because =
he cost them more by complaining.

   The EULA quoted is not relevant since that is the EULA for the boxed =
retail version not an OEM version.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45b7bb58$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Also wouldn't it be better to order the computer with  Windows and =
then ask=20
  Dell for the OS refund ( $10 vs $105 )
  http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html

  Dell today gave freelance programmer and sysadmin Dave Mitchell, of=20
  Sheffield, UK, a refund of 47 pounds ($89) for the unused copy of =
Microsoft=20
  Windows XP Home SP2 bundled with his new Dell Inspiron 640m laptop, =
Mitchell=20
  says. Dell also refunded the tax, for a total of =A355.23 ($105).

  The online version of the Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition EULA =
states,=20
  "You agree to be bound by the terms of this EULA by installing, =
copying, or=20
  otherwise using the software. If you do not agree, do not install, =
copy, or=20
  use the software; you may return it to your place of purchase for a =
full=20
  refund, if applicable."
  The language in the version that Mitchell received was slightly =
different.=20
  It read, "If you do not agree to the terms of this EULA, you may not =
use or=20
  copy the software, and should promptly contact manufacturer for =
instructions=20
  on return of the unused product(s) for a refund in accordance with=20
  manufacturer's return policies."


  "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message=20
  news:45b7ab72$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Does Dell pay a licensing or other fee to Microsoft on machines they =
ship
  without Windows?  Does Dell's contracts with Microsoft require a fee =
for
  every computer sold irrespective of whether Windows is sold with the=20
  machine?

  Gary

  Rich wrote:
  >    These aren't new.  Dell has been offering these for a while.
  >  As for a supposed savings, I priced an E520 from there and an =
otherwise=20
  > identical one with Windows XP Media Center and a free upgrade to =
Windows=20
  > Vista.  The system with freedos was $10 cheaper.  Dell supports the =
system=20
  > with Windows and it will support it with freedos.  It doesn't =
support it=20
  > with linux or other non-dell installed OS.
  >  Rich
  >
  >     "Ad"      > wrote in =
message
  >     news:45b733b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Blimey are Dell turning into knowing accomplices of pirates?
  >
  >=20
  > =
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=3Dus&cs=3D=
19&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs
  >=20
  > =
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=3Dus&cs=3D=
19&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs>
  >
  >     "Are you looking for a desktop on which you can run Linux=AE  or =
other
  >     open-source operating systems? Look no further!
  >
  >     Dell's new open-source n Series desktop solution provides =
customers
  >     with
  >     a DimensionTM  E520, E521 or C521 desktop without an installed =
or
  >     included Microsoft=AE  operating system. With the n Series =
desktop,
  >     customers have the flexibility to install an alternative =
operating
  >     system (such as a version of Linux=AE ), and help reduce the =
price of
  >     this
  >     system. In addition, the n Series desktop comes with a =
non-formatted
  >     hard drive ready for your custom installation. Dell's n Series =
desktop
  >     ships with a copy of FreeDosTM , an open-source operating system
  >     that is
  >     ready to install. "
  >
  >
  >
  >     Adam=20


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   The EULA
doesn't entitle =
you to a=20
refund for bits and pieces.  If you don't want to accept the =
license you=20
can return the whole computer.  One story a year of a guy that =
persuaded an=20
OEM to give him a credit because he cost them more by =
complaining.
 
   The EULA
quoted is not =
relevant since=20
that is the EULA for the boxed retail version not an OEM=20
version.
Rich
 

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:45b7bb58$1{at}w3.nls.net...Also=20
  wouldn't it be better to order the computer with  Windows and =
then ask=20
  Dell for the OS refund ( $10 vs $105 )h=">http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html">h=
ttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html;=
Dell=20
  today gave freelance programmer and sysadmin Dave Mitchell, of =
Sheffield,=20
  UK, a refund of 47 pounds ($89) for the unused copy of Microsoft =
Windows=20
  XP Home SP2 bundled with his new Dell Inspiron 640m laptop, Mitchell =
says.=20
  Dell also refunded the tax, for a total of =A355.23
($105).The =
online=20
  version of the Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition EULA states, "You =
agree=20
  to be bound by the terms of this EULA by installing, copying, or =
otherwise=20
  using the software. If you do not agree, do not install, copy, or =
use the=20
  software; you may return it to your place of purchase for a full =
refund,=20
  if applicable."The language in the version that Mitchell received =
was=20
  slightly different. It read, "If you do not agree to the terms of =
this=20
  EULA, you may not use or copy the software, and should promptly =
contact=20
  manufacturer for instructions on return of the unused product(s) =
for a=20
  refund in accordance with manufacturer's return=20
  policies.""Gary Britt"
<GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}genera=">mailto:GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}generalcogster.com">GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}genera=
lcogster.com>=20
  wrote in message news:45b7ab72$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
Does=20
  Dell pay a licensing or other fee to Microsoft on machines they=20
  shipwithout Windows?  Does Dell's contracts with Microsoft =
require a=20
  fee forevery computer sold irrespective of whether Windows is sold =
with=20
  the machine?GaryRich =
wrote:>   =20
  These aren't new.  Dell has been offering these for a=20
  while.>  As for a supposed savings, I priced an
E520 from =
there=20
  and an otherwise > identical one with Windows XP Media Center =
and a=20
  free upgrade to Windows > Vista.  The system
with freedos =
was $10=20
  cheaper.  Dell supports the system > with
Windows and it =
will=20
  support it with freedos.  It doesn't support it > with =
linux or=20
  other non-dell installed OS.> =20
 
Rich>>    
"Ad" <Dobbin{at}theStablesC=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin{at}theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com>    =20
  <mailto:Dobbin{at}theS=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">mailto:Dobbin{at}theS=
tablesCloseToTheAirport.com>>=20
  wrote in message>     news:45b733b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>    =20
  Blimey are Dell turning into knowing accomplices of =
pirates?>>=20
  > http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=3D=
us&cs=3D19&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs">http://www.dell.com/content/topics=
/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=3Dus&cs=3D19&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs=
>=20
  > <http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=3D=
us&cs=3D19&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs">http://www.dell.com/content/topics=
/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=3Dus&cs=3D19&l=3Den&s=3Ddhs=
>>>    =20
  "Are you looking for a desktop on which you can run Linux=AE  or=20
  other>    
open-source operating systems? =
Look no=20
 
further!>>    
Dell's new =
open-source n=20
  Series desktop solution provides =
customers>    =20
  with>     a
DimensionTM  E520, E521 or =
C521=20
  desktop without an installed
or>     =
included=20
  Microsoft=AE  operating system. With the n Series=20
  desktop,>    
customers have the =
flexibility to=20
  install an alternative
operating>     =
system (such=20
  as a version of Linux=AE ), and help reduce the price=20
  of>     =
this>    =20
  system. In addition, the n Series desktop comes with a=20
  non-formatted>    
hard drive ready for =
your custom=20
  installation. Dell's n Series
desktop>     =
ships=20
  with a copy of FreeDosTM , an open-source operating=20
  system>     that =
is>    =20
  ready to install. =
">>>>    =20
  Adam 

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