Dave Symn (DSymnpathy{at}yahoo.comnope) writes:
> On 30 Mar 2005 08:43:26 -0800, Hyerdahl spouted cow shit, as usual:
>
>> You're assuming that military positions are effected by the difference.
>> I'm sure you would be offended if we created a fake sexist standard
>> based on how much it took to feed this man's army vs. this woman's army
>> or to implement some biased test based upon small muscle or eye-hand
>> coordination .  :-)
>
> "Women are already doing everything men are doing".... and failing.

Indeed. Heres a repost of my cite from a work on the uselessness of
women in the military.

Note the specific performance data that I reproduced from a table in
the cited book, and note that, of the eight tested jobs, in only one
case were even *4%* of women able to do the job, after training:

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Date: 30 Mar 2005 05:31:29 GMT
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Carey Gregory (tiredofspam123{at}comcast.net) spouts ad homs:
> dg411{at}FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven) wrote:
>
>>I've been online for 9 years, and as yet, no one's been
>>dumb enough to demand that I type in whole books on
>>Usenet.
>
> Translation:

Actual translation for this cowshit " Translation " :

" I am now going to say what I wish Andre had written, so that
I can knock down the straw woman I am going to create, as actually
examining his cite and arguing it's merits, or lack therof, would
be *more than I can ever hope to manage*. "

> I read this book, and it's the gospel, I swear.

It sure contains a lot of empirical data, yes. Like the following:

Number of recruits NOT Capable Of Performing Damage Control Tasks:

Task                  % Of Women,   After     % Of Men,       After
                    Before Training Training Before Training Training

Stretcher carry, level    63        38         0             0
Stretcher carry, up/
   Down ladder            94        88         0             0
Fire Hose                 19        16         0             0
P250 Pump, carry down     99        99         9             4
P250 Pump, carry up       73        52         0             0
P250 Pump, start pump     90        75         0             0
Remove SSTG Pump          99        99         0             0
Torque engine bolt        78        47         0             0

Source: " Women In The Military; Flirting With Disaster ", Brian
Mitchell, 1998, Page 144.

So, pretty much all those jobs can be done by ANY man, with the
*maximum* rate of male failure being *4%*, while the maximum rate
of *female inability* is *99%*. And, the usual, minimum rate of
male failure is ZERO, while the minimum rate of female failure is
16%, and only one of the female rates of inability are under a
third of the cohort.

So much for " equal "... Boom !

" Brian Mitchell served seven years as a decorated infantry officer
and intelligence agent. He has worked as a reporter for The Navy
Times, is the author of the highly acclaimed " Weak Link; The
Feminisation of the American Military ", and was an expert
witness before the Presidential Commission of Women in the Armed
Forces. He has appeared on "Nightline", "Face The
Nation", "Today",
and "Larry King Live". Mitchell now lives in Houston with his
wife and three children. " End jacket.

So, heres my choice: I can either go with a trained veteran, who
has stayed current since leaving the forces, who is well enough
respected, since then, to write for a forces journal, and to
testify *intelligently* in front of a *Presidential Commission*,
or I can take the cowshit word of a Usenet blowhard, with AbZero
credibility, who *CAN'T be BOTHERED to even READ the cited work*.

Hmm... tough choice... NOT !!!

> I can't support the arguments presented or even describe them in
> detail,

Well, the above shows that to be your... LIE.

> but it's all true and totally beyond debate.

To debate, both parties would have to be familiar with the book.

As you are NOT, you are UNABLE to debate *what you don't know*.

Duh !

> Really.

Only one of us can say that, with knowledge. Me. Read the book.
Be less of an ignorant person.
--
Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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