On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:36:56 -0500, K. A. Cannon
 transparently proposed:

>"the messenjah"  posted
> in
>alt.usenet.kooks on 2 Feb 2005 07:01:56 -0800:
>
>>
>>
>>K. A. Cannon wrote:
>>> "the messenjah"  posted
>>>  in
>>> alt.usenet.kooks on 2 Feb 2005 06:19:28 -0800:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Daedalus wrote:
>>> >> On 1 Feb 2005 17:54:30 -0800, "the messenjah"
>>> >> , wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Peter J Ross wrote:
>>> >> >> On Wednesday 02 February, the messenjah wrote in
>>rec.arts.poems:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Better stick with the cello,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Where do you get the idea that I'm a
cellist, chucknozzle? I'm
>>an
>>> >> >> amateur composer who happens to have had
very good teachers
>>> >> >(including
>>> >> >> a pupil of Donald Tovey and a pupil of Ralph
Vaughan Williams,
>>not
>>> >> >> that you've ever heard of either of them),
but I haven't
>>touched a
>>> >> >> musical instrument (except to attempt some
blues improvisation)
>>> >for
>>> >> >> about twenty years.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >A composer who hasn't touched a musical
instrument in twenty
>>years?
>>> >> >Right...
>>> >>
>>> >> If you knew anything about composing you'd realize
that's entirely
>>> >> possible.
>>> >
>>> >LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Tell me Chuck...How the hell did Ludwig van Beethoven compose
>>anything
>>> when he was deaf? I am sure playing his compositions on the piano did
>>> wonders for him as he was Deaf.
>>>
>>> You really are a fucking moron.
>>
>>Peter J. Ross isn't deaf, dumbass.
>
>Simple logic is beyond your comprehension.
>
>Beethoven composed many many works while he was stone cold deaf.
>That means he couldn't hear the music Chuck.
>That means that even if he played the instrument while composing any
>piece he at best could only sense the vibrations of the instrument. He
>couldn't hear the music. Yet he composed some of his most magnificent
>work when he was deaf and couldn't hear the music he was writing.
>
>So...in essence he was a composer who couldn't hear any music yet he
>composed some of the most beautiful musical works ever written.
>Perhaps if you ever listened to just one of his Symphonies or Piano
>Concertos you'd realize what a musical genius he was.
>
>So in an answer to your stupidity...yes, one can compose music without
>using a musical instrument. If you had any talent you'd know that.
>But what can one expect from a stoopid crazy gutless phone cretin who
>makes numerous threats and NEVER backs them up.

Specifically the 9th Symphony. Possibly the greatest musical
masterpiece in history. Some theories have him cutting the legs off
the piano so he could feel the vibrations. Unlikely. Most likely he
was a genius and simply used his experience to play the music in his
mind.


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