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echo: philos
to: DAVID MARTORANA
from: WILLIAM ELLIOT
date: 1998-01-09 01:08:00
subject: `Nothing`

 >>> David Martorana on "Nothing" 
 WE> Mystics refer to it as the void, the abyss, the unknowable and
 WE> claim to attain comprehension.  It's also intertwined with notions
 WE> of death.
 DM> 
 DM> I doubt very much that such "comprehensions" are more than
 DM> brain chemistry playing games.    The questions concerning
 DM> the "empty desert" are unsimple to ask .......the answers,
 DM> if there are any, unsimple back to question.
You could say the same about philosophy in general.
 
 DM> That I can sort of conceive
 DM> the idea .....Nihil, void, empty,  is itself all I have to go on.....
Oh, like many before, there's really nothing to it.
 WE> No, mostly we're fumbling around in the dark hoping to bump into
 WE> something familiar or at least perceptible.  
 DM> Yes! hoping for a bump says it well..... Perhaps the brain is
 DM> a mixed blessing to explore as it seems designed to be limited
Indeed, that bump is called a mystical experience.
 DM> NOTE: I would also wonder whether this nihil-void philosophy, parts
 DM> into two areas, Cosmic philosophy and mankind-ish philosophy.
 DM> I've several times been caught in "topic skirmish" with the two
 DM> getting all mixed up into "impossible overlap reasoning" I was
 DM> not smart enough to separate.
Most mythology does a good job of mixing these two.  If you look into 
creation myths you can often find glimmers of growing infant awareness.  
Consider, 'In the beginning was light ... '
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