On 05/04/2010 06:42 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RS> "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer"  wrote in
 RS> news:30295$POL_INC{at}JamNNTPd:

 EH>>>> Once again reality trumps the loons on the left.

 RS>>> Once again, reality panics the loons on the right.

 EH>> So you have nothing to say... like "I was wrong"?
Remember, you chimed
 EH>> in with the usual nutty left-wing claim that it was a
"teabager." You
 EH>> even made noise about how it could have been some teens on a prank.

 RS> AGAIN, and get it stright this time, moron, I never said anything about
 RS> a "prank."

Let's see if your buddy Drum moderates you.

What exactly would they have done it for, then? Mad at Obamacare?

 RS> When I said teenagers, I was thinking of the Columbine killers.
 RS> Their rampage was not a "prank," and they made bombs out of propane
 RS> cylinders, just like the Time Square idiot.

Uh... that was not even close to "just like the Times Square
idiot." The SUV was packed with gasoline cans full of gasoline and
full propane tanks. The guy even put 100lb of fertilizer in a gun locker
inside the SUV. Too bad (for him and his buddies in Pakistan) he didn't
understand that the fertilizer has to be ammonium nitrate, not just any
fertilizer and he used cheap timers or it would have been a successful
bomb. The gasoline and propane alone could have cause a mass of damage and
lives lost.

 RS> Got it this time?
 RS> Or will you continue your clumsy LIE?

I have you pegged, sparky.

 EH>> Now, all you can do is post the opinion of someone else as if it was
 EH>> truth.

 RS> Translation: Your boys are in full panic mode, ever since Obama stopped
 RS> rounding 'em up and torturing.

My boys? Who in the world are "[my] boys?"

And... what on earth are you going on about? You speak as though someone is
eager to torture people for the sake of torture.

 RS>>> Yesterday, when the primary suspect in the attempted bombing of
 EH>> Times RS> Square was a middle aged white guy, Republican leaders
 EH>> were the picture RS> of calm, sober leadership. High ranking
 EH>> Republicans on committees RS> related to national security like Pete
 EH>> Hoekstra and Peter King urged RS> people not to jump to conclusions,
 EH>> while Senate Majority Leader Mitch RS> McConnell praised New Yorkers
 EH>> for not succumbing to fear. Likewise, RS> hawkish Senator Joe
 EH>> Lieberman, who has tended to side with Republicans RS> on national
 EH>> security issues, issued a statement yesterday saying,
"More RS> than
 EH>> anything, terrorists want to instill terror. They want to create a
 RS>>> wide and broad sense of fear among ordinary people. The
 EH>> resilience shown RS> by New Yorkers robs terrorists of that
power."

 EH>> Yet, you and mayor Bloomberg made the leap of logic that it was
 EH>> probably someone form the tea party angry at Obamacare. You were shown
 EH>> to be idiots and yet all you can do is run away.

 RS> Gee, you don't suppose it could be due to this guy, among others, could
 RS> it?

Don't go trying to deflect attention from your leap in logic. Nothing you
can point to supports you loony claim that "teabaggers" would do
anything violent.

 RS> http://tinyurl.com/25ds98v

What was this supposed to prove?

 RS>>> That was yesterday. Today, as in the aftermath of the failed
 EH>> underwear RS> bombing on Christmas Day, Republicans are eager to
 EH>> give that power back. RS> With the Justice Department announcing the
 EH>> arrest of Faisal Shahzad, a RS> Pakistani-born American citizen and
 EH>> Connecticut resident in connection RS> with the failed plot,
 EH>> Republicans have returned to their usual script. RS> Contrasting
 EH>> McConnell's careful statement from yesterday, Rep. Eric RS> Cantor
 EH>> complained that Americans really don't live in the kind of RS>
 EH>> perpetual panic that the threat of terrorism necessitates:

 EH>> Ho hum... editorializing...

 RS>>> Cantor complained that the public "goes on heightened
alert"
 EH>> after such RS> incidents for "hours and days rather than
 EH>> permanently" and thatObama RS> aides "tend to give
these warnings
 EH>> due attention only in limited RS> spurts."

 EH>> Obama tried to ignore the attack, only mentioning it once during his
 EH>> photo op down in LA.

 RS> Lie.

He was at the press club dinner yucking it up the night it happened. He
then mentions it in passing as he posed for pictures in Louisiana almost 2
weeks after the oil spill happened. And then he talks about
"teabaggers" inciting violence.

I don't need to lie, BHO's actions speak for themselves.

 RS>>> Senator John McCain, appearing on the Imus show, warned the
 RS>>> administration against reading Shahzad, an American citizen, his
 EH>> Miranda RS> rights:

 EH>> They didn't until he started talking and gave them a bunch of info
 EH>> leading to the round up of co-conspirators in Pakistan.

 RS> The end always justifies the means, in conservafairyland.

Huh? Do you even have a clue?

 RS>>> "Obviously that would be a serious mistake until all the
 EH>> information is RS> gathered," McCain said during an appearance on
 EH>> "Imus in the Morning" RS> when asked whether the suspect,
 EH>> 30-year-old Faisal Shahzad, a RS> naturalized American citizen from
 EH>> Pakistan [should be read his rights.]

 EH>> The Justice Department did just what McCain advised.

 RS>>> Not content to be merely opposed to due process for foreigners
 EH>> accused RS> of terrorism, McCain wants to deny American citizens
 EH>> their rights to due RS> process as well. Indeed, McCain and
 EH>> Lieberman recently introduced a bill RS> that would allow the
 EH>> government to hold U.S. citizens indefinitely RS> without charge.
 EH>> Needless to say, things like Mirandization were non- RS> issues for
 EH>> McCain during the Bush administration, when more than 403 RS>
 EH>> convictions were secured through the civilian justice system.

 EH>> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

 EH>> Like I said, reality trumps the loons on the left.

 RS> Like I said, actual reality throws you right-wing loony tunes into full
 RS> panic mode.

You are the one acting loony, sparky.

Ed

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are commonly most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the
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