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echo: ufo
to: GEORGE JIRI OPLETAL
from: IVY IVERSON
date: 1998-01-15 07:54:00
subject: MJ-12: NOT debunked...

-=> On 01-12-98  12:30, George Jiri Opletal said to All,<=-
-=>"About Recently posted false cla...,"<=-
 
Hi, George;
 
 GJO> You would of notice a great deal of supposed information which
 GJO> attempts to discredit the Majestic-12 documents (not discussing the
 GJO> Extraterrestrial recovery manual)...
 GJO> ... thus I have debunked these posts in  skeptics.  Here is the
 GJO> summary of where mainly Philip Klass got it wrong...
 
[Megasnip]
 
 GJO> What it does clear show is that skeptics are just as much
 GJO> susceptible  to excepting lies as are the extreme U.F.O groupies. 
 
What can I say?  The non-believers use Occam's razor to slice away the
meat, the believers use the same instrument to slice away the bone.  IOW,
if it doesn't fit someone's PERCEPTION of the "facts" it is thrown out
and disregarded or evidence - imaginary or not - is searched for to
discredit what they dislike.  And some high-profile disbelievers like
Klass, (who many follow like the Messiah), are really good at using that
rusty impliment... Klass is dismissed!
 
I would sooner believe the likes of someone with doubious background who
CLAIMS to have worked on reverse engineering UFOs at Area 51, and who, at
least, knows where the restrooms and lunch rooms are and how meals are
paid for, than the likes of someone who presents provably manufactured
evidence.  (We all know which two I'm thinking of here.)
 
Unfortunately for honest investigators, with modern computer programs,
the difference in the Truman signatures would be easy to fake IF someone
were faking the whole document, however this does not invalidate your
other points.  Also, starting at least as far back as President Kennedy,
there have been "Signature machines" which will do a PERFECT imitation of
someone's signature, and every one will be absoloutely identical!
President Kennedy DID use his machine for signing many laws.  So the
"identical signature" argument becomes invalid, at least as far back as
the early '50's.  Does the fact that many of the laws signed into effect
by President Kennedy have identical signatures and are therefore fakes?
 
Catch you later... Keep l00king up!
   Ivy
 
 
 
... Skeptic's Cleaver: Hack off any nonconforming evidence.
 
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