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echo: pol_inc
to: Dave Drum
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2010-05-13 15:56:00
subject: Ink from other pens ...

DD> Got this in e-mail the other day from a friend. Posting it
 DD> here with his permission and because I agree (mostly) with
 DD> it.

 DD> Again, I must respond to another email from my RACIST
 DD> corespondents. They just keep sending these emails like
 DD> lemmings marching off a cliff.

 DD> This same email circulated during the last immigration bill
 DD> in the BushCo (George III) days.

 DD> -+-

 DD> THE E-MAIL AS IT IS BEING SENT AROUND LIKE A SPAM FOR VIAGRA

 DD> "A Real Eye Opener

 DD> WHY is the USA BANKRUPT?

 DD> Informative, and mind boggling!

 DD> You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?  Read
 DD> this:

 DD> Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the
 DD> propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror
 DD> that is bankrupting us.

 DD> I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

 DD> I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over
 DD> again until they are read so many times that the reader
 DD> gets sick of reading them.  I also have included the URL's
 DD> for verification of all the following facts...

 DD> 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to
 DD> illegal aliens each year by state governments.
 DD> Verify at:
 DD> http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrati
 DD> onissuecenters7fd8

 Uh... trillian dollar war, $110 billion for welfare for illegals
 over that period? Assuming that is correct.

 DD> 2.  $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
 DD> programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches
 DD> for illegal aliens.



 DD> Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML
 DD> "

 DD> ---------- >B CUT 12 MORE SPECIOUS CLAIMS 8<---------------

 DD> "The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A
 DD> YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING
 DD> THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD
 DD> BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS
 DD> COUNTRY.

 ...

 DD> -+-

 DD> We did - and you still aren't happy. You must like to piss
 DD> and moan a lot.

 DD> Do some research.
 DD> http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

 DD> Since you GREEDY Americans want Slave-labor, you can blame
 DD> yourselves for these problems you speak of.

 Not true. We greedy Americans do not want slave labor, nor do we
 want illegal aliens. Now some buisnees people do, and some of
 the wealthy, but we ordinarly working Americans don't.

 ...

 DD> Lawmakers allow slave labor due to lax penalties. Now we
 DD> have to suffer the consequences--Illegals are here to stay
 DD> and until they can legally pay taxes, we'll continue to pay
 DD> their human services bills. Also being extremely underpaid
 DD> leads to criminal activity.

 So boot them out.

 DD> Many illegals would like to pay into the tax system but
 DD> they cannot because they're illegal aliens.

 False. Many illegal aliens do pay into the tax system. Many
 illegal aliens hold legitimate jobs, even though they hold them
 illegitimately.

 DD> You hate-filled, so-called, "In God You Trust" people would
 DD> rather blame the immigrants and sweep the whole thing under
 DD> the rug instead of fessing up and saying, "OK, what can we
 DD> do to rectify this in a humane fashion?"

 Put the employers in prison, and take away their business.
 Simple.

 DD> If all were made legal and were able to pay taxes on a
 DD> decent American wage, then this would pay for the mess WE
 DD> created.

 And encourage millions more to come here. Given two million
 illegals in 1987, when Reagan signed the amnesty, and 12 million
 now, legalizing 12 million is likely to lead to 50 million next
 time.

 DD> Had *you* not hired illegals at sub-human wages, they would
 DD> have no reason to cross the border, would have long ago
 DD> risen up and DEMAND their government to fix things so they
 DD> could stay home and make a decent wage to support their
 DD> families.

 Yep. Put the employers in prison.

 ...

 DD> It seems as though you would prefer to load illegals into
 DD> box cars the way Hitler did with Jews.

 Really really dumb. Had Hitler shipped the Jews to Israel, they
 would have been delighted.

 DD> A better start would be to require anyone caught hiring
 DD> illegals to spend 10 YEARS in prison with no parole.

 Ok. Even more than I would have given them.

 DD> Then, allow the existing non-criminal illegals to earn a
 DD> fair LEGAL wage and PAY TAXES to support the services they
 DD> now use for free thanks to your LOCAL GREEDY AMERICAN
 DD> BUSINESS OWNER who is to blame for all of this.

 Nope. Blame is not the issue. Solving the problem is the issue.

 DD> I've been saying this for the past 6 years and just the
 DD> other day I heard that this is how it may play out in the
 DD> next few months--STIFF penalty for those caught hiring
 DD> illegals and the ability for non-criminal illegals to pay
 DD> taxes.

 They have that ability now. However, even under the most humane
 solution, there is a difference between the one who has raised a
 family here and built a life, and the ones who came across the
 border last year and have no established life here.

 If any are to be legalized, that doesn't excuse legalizing all
 of them.

 ...



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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