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DD>> How about understanding that a "corporate person" is a legal
DD>> fiction limiting liability of the actual persons involved
DD>> in that corporation. That however is not guaranteed ... as
DD>> has been learned by several "robber barons" who went bust
DD>> or ripped off their patrons.
BA> It's not a legal fiction, a corporation is in fact an
BA> 'artificial person' in law. And it is possible to pierce
BA> that corporate veil to identify and if need be get at the
BA> owners.
That last is irrelevant. And it is a legal fiction. An
artificial person is a legal fiction.
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BA> Actually, companies as such existed before the US was
BA> founded. Two things in particular differentiate the
BA> corporate 'person' from a human; one is that the corporate
BA> person cannot vote, another is that the corporate person
BA> can exist forever ("in perpetuity" is the usual
BA> terminology).
And the third was the corporate person was not allowed to
promote candidates. That should be reinstated. A corporation is
not a person, no matter how it is treated for business
convenience.
DD>> And thus should not be guaranteed the protections granted to
DD>> individual human citizens ... especially since a
DD>> corporation cannot be a citizen, is not eligible to vote
DD>> (altho with the recent mis-guided decision of the supremes
DD>> it may be able to buy votes), and cannot be elected to
DD>> office.
BA> Non corporate entities also buy politicians. The decision
Yep. That doesn't change the above.
BA> you disagree with merely levels the field. Since all
Nope. Opening the field to more corruption is not leveling the
field.
BA> politicians in this country are bought and paid for, I'd
BA> just like to know just who owns which politicians.
With a corporation that can be hard to do. And knowing doesn't
help if you can't do anything about it.
BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn
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