On Jan 05 2003  Michael Gothreau wrote to Phil Simpson:


 MG>> Hmmmm  I help run one of the most orderly echoes in Fidonet,
 MG>> where most users actually appreciate we enforce the rules, and 

I call it gestapo tactics. 

 PS> That's a matter of opinion. I don't agree with your methods of
 PS> moderating, but then again, that's just my opinion.

 MG> My opinion is backed up by facts.  I get lots of people complaining
 MG> about being Moderated, but not one person who did not deserve it
 MG> ever has complained. 

Your opinion is based on nothing but your opinion. Now that's a fact!  :)

 MG>> Yeah, well people who get Moderated often do bitch about it...

 PS> I really don't remember moderating you in any of my echos. I don't
 PS> remember you bitching either. The echos I /do/ moderate I moderate in
 PS> a hands off fashion. You are, IMO, far too hands on.

 MG> What was I supposed to do with wave after wave of asshole coming
 MG> into the echo with no other intent rather than to dirupt the echo?

You's know about a wave of assholes, I'll give you that.

 MG> That echo has rules for a reason.  If it did not have rules, it
 MG> would just be another POLITICS echo and it would be redundant. 
 MG> Some users wanted an echo where personal attacks were not allowed,
 MG> and Dan Ceppa and I gave it to them.  It takes effort.

Takes nothing but pushing your weight around. Exactly what you two do.

 PS>  But that's my
 PS> opinion, I also just lurk in /your/ echo, I'm afraid to open my mouth
 PS> for fear you will strike me with a lightening bolt or worse. :)

 MG> You are being an idiot.  I wouldn't do anything to you as long as
                      ^^^^^ 
 MG> you followed the rules there.  Those rules are simple enough for a
 MG> 12 year old to follow.  Are you saying you cannot follow simple
 MG> rules which prevent flaming of fellow participants?  If so, then
 MG> you are smart not to post there.

Careful buddy. Good thing you aren'y in your echo. you's have to moderate
yourself for flaming.  :)

 PS>  Mind
 PS> you, I'm well aware of echos and moderating, I've been around Fidonet
 PS> a long time. The above is just my opinion and not being personal, 
 PS> although I can't determine exactly how you may take it.  :) Either 
 PS> way, hopefully we understand each other.

 MG> I understand that you have warped judgement.  Let me know which
                                ^^^^^^ 
 MG> echoes you Moderate so I can stop by for a lesson in following echo
 MG> rules. 

More flaming ... practise what you preach comes to mind. 

 MG> Mind you, if your echoes have no rules, then it is little wonder
 MG> you adopt a "hands off" approach.

I don't have to be a little Hitler to run an echo, many don't. You're into
a power trip, simple as that.

 MG> From the desk of,

Whatever. 

Have a nice day!
                  Phil

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