Hi Phil,
On , you wrote me:

 PS> On Jan 05 2003  Michael Gothreau wrote to Phil Simpson:

 MG>>> I must say I thouroughly enjoyed your advice on "people always
 MG>>> in on these situations where they can push a little bit of
 MG>>> power around".  After all, you CAN speak on this AS an
 MG>>> expert :)

 PS>> You can talk.  LOL. Sort like you and your gestapo like tactics
 PS>> in the pol_inc echo. :))  Talk about pushing power. Dale can't 
 PS>> hold
 PS>> a candle to your people pushing tactics.

 MG>> Hmmmm  I help run one of the most orderly echoes in Fidonet,
 MG>> where most users actually appreciate we enforce the rules, and 
 MG>> you
 MG>> call it "people pushing". 

 PS> That's a matter of opinion. I don't agree with your methods of
 PS> moderating, but then again, that's just my opinion.

My opinion is backed up by facts.  I get lots of people complaining about
being Moderated, but not one person who did not deserve it ever has
complained.

 MG>> Yeah, well people who get Moderated often do bitch about it...

 PS> I really don't remember moderating you in any of my echos. I don't
 PS> remember you bitching either. The echos I /do/ moderate I moderate in
 PS> a hands off fashion. You are, IMO, far too hands on.

What was I supposed to do with wave after wave of asshole coming into the
echo with no other intent rather than to dirupt the echo?

That echo has rules for a reason.  If it did not have rules, it would just
be another POLITICS echo and it would be redundant.  Some users wanted an
echo where personal attacks were not allowed, and Dan Ceppa and I gave it
to them.  It takes effort.

 PS>  But that's my
 PS> opinion, I also just lurk in /your/ echo, I'm afraid to open my mouth
 PS> for fear you will strike me with a lightening bolt or worse. :)

You are being an idiot.  I wouldn't do anything to you as long as you
followed the rules there.  Those rules are simple enough for a 12 year old
to follow.  Are you saying you cannot follow simple rules which prevent
flaming of fellow participants?  If so, then you are smart not to post
there.

 PS>  Mind
 PS> you, I'm well aware of echos and moderating, I've been around Fidonet
 PS> a long time. The above is just my opinion and not being personal, 
 PS> although I can't determine exactly how you may take it.  :) Either 
 PS> way, hopefully we understand each other.

I understand that you have warped judgement.  Let me know which echoes you
Moderate so I can stop by for a lesson in following echo rules.

Mind you, if your echoes have no rules, then it is little wonder you adopt
a "hands off" approach.





From the desk of,

  Michael

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