Hyerdahl3 wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Why do men sink to the bottom?
> >From: "Ben" ArGee45{at}hotmail.com
> >Date: 2/4/2005 10:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: 
> >
> >
> >Heidi Graw wrote:
> >> >"USA"  wrote in message
> >> >news:5sm401psuhvgg68d84dmnhudn5shdqimjb{at}4ax.com...
> >> > >On 03 Feb 2005 06:40:35 GMT, hyerdahl3{at}aol.com (Hyerdahl3)
wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Plus, there was a study a few years back showing
that girlsfrom
single
> female headed homes were more successful.
> >> >
> >> > By all means, produce this "study."
>
> http://www.virginia.edu/insideuva/2000/09/hetherington.html

450 families, eh?  And if I can find 450 families in which divorce
wreaked havoc on the children, would that offset this one?  Because I'm
pretty sure that anyone who even casually glances around can find that
450 families.

Given the breadth and depth of broken families in this country, and the
resultant social pathologies that we know are occuring, a study with
only 450 families isn't representative.

>
> =B7 Boys are rarely enhanced by divorce. However, some girls, like
their
> mothers, become exceptionally confident and competent after divorce.

Well, I've been saying right along that boys are at more risk in single
mother families than girls.  I did notice that the article didn't do
much more than make a slight reference to this.

>
> Here's another talking about both sexes:
>
> The article:  Fatherless Homes Aren't Barrier to Kid's Success by
Suzanne Leigh
> published in the British journal, New Scientist

That link didn't come through.

>
> Also, folks keep asking about another study regarding men lying more,
so while
> I was going thru my files, I located that article as well.
>
> The article entitled "Fathers Lie More, Queen's Study Says" from The
Kingston
> Whig Standard dated Thurs. May 27th, 1999.
>
> Here's a blurb from that one:
>
> "A study suggests a third of unproven cases of child abuse stemming
from
> custody battles involve some deliberate lying in court.  Researchers
at Queens
> University law faculty are also suggesting that while mothers make
allegations
> of child abuse more often than men during custody battles, fathers
are more
> likely to fabricate the accusations than mothers are".  Hmmmmm

So an article in, what, a magazine or newspaper says that "studies
suggest"?  Reporters are notoriously inaccurate in summarizing research
findings (though they're slightly more reliable than feminists).
"Studies suggest" is really another term for "this study can't
measure".

Besides, you got anything from *this* country?

>
>  What were these girls allegedly "more successful" at? 
Having"more"
>  fatherless babies?  Being prostitutes?  Being drug addicts and/or>
alcoholics?
>
>    ;-)
> >>
> At having the confidence instilled by a single mom and uncomplicated
by a
> sexist dad?

Have you ever seen how many successful young women thank their fathers
for teaching them how to be confident and go for what they want?  Quite
a few.

> >>
> > I don't know what study Hyerdahl is refering to, but I do
know>positive>
> parenting style does help children to be more successful socially and
> > academically.  It is the *parenting skill*, whether single,
married,
> >rich or> poor, that determines the outcome of the children.
>
> I tend to agree with that.  Non-sexist fathers can be just as good at
>parenting
> as non-sexist mothers.

Men and women ring different parenting styles to the table.  I think
exposing the child(ren) to both is in their ultimate best interests.

>
> >Across the board, children in intact families are doing better
than>children
> not in one.  Of course a positive parenting style will help.>A
positive
> parenting style with both parents in the home helps the
> >most.
>
> Indeed.  And female children still benefit by seeing a successful
competent
> female role model not doing the unpaid work for an unjustly enriched
father.

Yep, working 50+ hours a week to support a wife and children will sure
"unjustly enrich" a fella.  Spoken like the true sexist/racist bigot.
Female children would do well by not emulating you.

Just out of curiousity, would you consider it "unjust enrichment" for a
waitress if she managed to marry a millionnaire and divorced him a few
years later, trying to claim half his fortune?



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