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to: Howie Coombe
from: Phil Marlowe
date: 2003-01-18 09:01:24
subject: GARLIC AGAIN & WELCOME BACK

Howie Coombe said to Phil Marlowe
 
 > that i am back on this echo, although
 
 Welcome back. I've been away for awhile as well.
 Here are a couple of positive tidbits about garlic,
 the first one interesting to anyone with heart problems:
 
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-----SUPPLEMENT SUBSTITUTES FOR STATINS
 
 GARLIC, OLIVE OIL, FISH OIL, BENECOL MARGARINE
 
From: "oldal4865"  <---OLD-AL
Newsgroups: sci.med.pharmacy
Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:21:19 -0500
 
 > Niacin combined with Zocor was lowering my BP to
 uncomfortable levels. Unfortunately it was also
 making my joints hurt. I quit the Zocor and don't
 >seem to be getting the same BP lowering effect
 with just the niacin, taking >Slo Niacin to avoid
 the flushes. But if it lowers my cholesterol that
 will >be good.
 
 >How about garlic oil caps? Do they have a
 significant effect on cholesterol >or is it just
 hype?
 
 I attended a Diabetes Training course last night
 in which cholesterol/heart attack issues were
 raised. The CDE quoted reputable medical sources
 which asserted that :
 
 a. Fish Oil (minimum 2 gram/day)
 b. Benecol (taken as the margerine, 3 servings per day)
 c. Policosanol (10 - 30 mg/day)
 
 are partial replacements for the statins which
 some of us cannot take. Regards Old Al
 
 
 From: "oldal4865" 
 Newsgroups: sci.med.pharmacy
 Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure?
 
 >Not familiar with those last 2 but how about the
 garlic and things like olive oil?  >
 
 I checked the hand-outs:
 
 1. Olive oil is a **given**. It is assumed that
 folks worried about this matter switch to olive
 oil as their cooking oil immediately. (This was a
 lecture on supplements. They didn't discuss olive
 oil as a supplement)
 
 2. Their remarks on Garlic as a supplement:
 "Shown to be effective in reducing cholesterol,
 LDL, TG and increasing HDL. Effects may take 4-6
 weeks. Adult daily dose 4-12 mg allicin or 3-10
 grams fresh garlic or one 600-900 mg tablet.
 ===Caution: Heat and acid destroy active components
 so enteric-coated products show better results"
 
 3. Benecol is a trade name for a patented "plant
 sterol". It is sold as the margerine (US $4 for
 8 oz) and as in an expensive capsule.
 
 4. Policosanol is a wax obtained from sugar
 cane(?). It is sold in pill form, US $0.22 for
 10 mg.
 
 Sorry, no citations given. This was a training
 course/lecture/seminar conducted by a C.D.E. at a
 major hospital.  Regards Old Al
 
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From: moloyama{at}yahoo.com (moloyama)
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking,misc.health.alternative,
Subject: the BEST way to ingest raw garlic
Date: 24 Nov 2002 12:05:49 -0800
 
 i've been determined to find the most odor-free
 way of eating raw garlic and after weeks of
 experimenting -- i have found the way and wish to
 tell you all.
 cut a clove into 4 pieces LENGTHWISE, so that you
 have 4 slender quarters. dip it in some oil
 (preferably organic, nonrefined flaxseed or olive
 oil), place it far back on your tongue, AND
 SWALLOW. the oil lets it go down with no burning
 and having the clove sliced allows your digestive
 system to better break it down to obtain the
 mighty allicin. voila. hope it works for you as
 well as it has for me-- because i tell you the
 pills won't give you nearly the same benefit as
 the REAL THING.
 
 From: yaklord{at}aol.com (Yak Lord)
 actually I'd say its not bad advice, though I'm
 used to just eating the stuff raw
 
 From: jrbuffett1{at}sympatico.ca (John B)
 The main advantage of eating raw garlic is that if you
 eat enough no one will smell onions on your breath. :-)
 

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