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from: Mr. F. Le Mur flemur1301
date: 2005-02-06 02:30:00
subject: Re: Harvard aims to spur advancement of women - [WAS: Harvar

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 21:32:20 -0500, LeMod Pol  wrote:

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>"Mr. F. Le Mur" wrote:
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>> On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:48:51 -0500, LeMod Pol  wrote:
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>> >
>> >"Mr. F. Le Mur" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:07:51 -0500, viking
 wrote:
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>> >> >On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:56:06 -0500, LeMod Pol
 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>> >recruiting women and
>> >> >>> >reducing barriers to career advancement
at Harvard,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Newspeak for "lower standards."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>so you say--
>> >> >>would you care to offer some proof??
>> >> >
>> >> >It's totally obvious. And if you want proof, I'm a
witness of this at
>> >> >two ivy league universities. But it's clear you're just beng
>> >> >argumentative; this point to completely obvious.
>> >>
>> >> Lower standards *and* special perks, like free money, for
>> >> being female.
>> >
>> >That tells us nothing that might serve to prove either
>> >your statement or the viking troll's
>> >
>> >It is proveable facts, not hot air  that is needed
>>
>> "Affirmative action" always consists of those elements.
>
>You ignorant jackass!!! If you had spent 15 minutes

You ludicrous twit!

>thinking about this issue and seeking something to
>bolster your claims you might have realized that you
>are on the wrong track.

Incorrect. This is all about the very common practice of
"affirmative action" for women.

>
>This is not about "affirmative action" -- this is about
>the old boy network refusing to hire superbly qualified
>women to give the jobs to some buddy's less qualified
>student.
>Check with Beaudoin College about when they pulled a
>stunt like that - they got hit with paying a full
>professor's salary to the lady who could teach the
>department head (who she was supposed to replace for
>one year) plus pay a graduate student from Yale to
>actually teach his courses

Tell me all about it.  Then I'll tell you all about
the "women only" programs and scholarships.

>
>If you have not been in the system you can have no clue
>about the politics that goes on -- it is not pretty

I've been in "the system," more than one in fact, and
happen to know that women get all sorts of special
options, both in academia and in business.

>
>Summers is using a typical academic/bureaucratic ploy
>-- appoint a "task force" let it meet sporadically --
>takes the heat off, while the issue evaporates.

The "issue" being some lady getting a case of The Vapours.

>However Prof Grosz may be much smarter than Summers and
>she will work the committee so that she will not only
>have a report May 1, but also a slate of candidates for
>tenured slots to start Sept 05 and another for Sept 06

That sure sounds like a lot of meetings and paperwork.

>
>There will be a bunch up for tenure this year -- that
>will, despite all assurances, will not get it.



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