LeMod Pol wrote:
> "Mr. F. Le Mur" wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:48:51 -0500, LeMod Pol 
wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Mr. F. Le Mur" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:07:51 -0500, viking

wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:56:06 -0500, LeMod Pol

wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>> >recruiting women and
> > >> >>> >reducing barriers to career advancement
at Harvard,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Newspeak for "lower standards."
> > >> >>
> > >> >>so you say--
> > >> >>would you care to offer some proof??
> > >> >
> > >> >It's totally obvious. And if you want proof, I'm a witness of
this at
> > >> >two ivy league universities. But it's clear you're just beng
> > >> >argumentative; this point to completely obvious.
> > >>
> > >> Lower standards *and* special perks, like free money, for
> > >> being female.
> > >
> > >That tells us nothing that might serve to prove either
> > >your statement or the viking troll's
> > >
> > >It is proveable facts, not hot air  that is needed
> >
> > "Affirmative action" always consists of those elements.
>
> You ignorant jackass!!! If you had spent 15 minutes
> thinking about this issue and seeking something to
> bolster your claims you might have realized that you
> are on the wrong track.
>
> This is not about "affirmative action" -- this is about
> the old boy network refusing to hire superbly qualified
> women to give the jobs to some buddy's less qualified
> student.


   You are making a highly bigoted statement. I have no doubt that this
is the scenario and explanation that most gratifies your prejudices but
it is trivial - as an explanation- beside the Everest sized fact that
very damn few women want to be math professors. It is more fun to talk
about how much better they could do everything if only they had been
allowed to try.

> Check with Beaudoin College about when they pulled a
> stunt like that - they got hit with paying a full
> professor's salary to the lady who could teach the
> department head


   As if the outcome of a lawsuit in Academia tells us anything about
what really happened.

 graduate student from Yale to
> actually teach his courses
>
> If you have not been in the system you can have no clue
> about the politics that goes on -- it is not pretty
>
> Summers is using a typical academic/bureaucratic ploy
> -- appoint a "task force" let it meet sporadically --
> takes the heat off, while the issue evaporates.
> However Prof Grosz may be much smarter than Summers and
> she will work the committee so that she will not only
> have a report May 1, but also a slate of candidates for
> tenured slots to start Sept 05 and another for Sept 06
>
> There will be a bunch up for tenure this year -- that
> will, despite all assurances, will not get it.
>
> --
> LP
>
> "We are fighting today for security, for progress,
> and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
> men, not only for one generation but for all
> generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
> of ancient evils, ancient ills."
>
> Franklin Delano Roosevelt
> State of the Union Address - 1942



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