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from: Rdubose{at}pdq.Net
date: 2005-02-05 14:28:00
subject: Re: One in three dads duped

Tarla wrote:
> On 4 Feb 2005 14:13:46 -0800, rdubose{at}pdq.net wrote:
>
> >   If you truly do not grasp why a guy should care so much about
this
> >issue, you are a deeply incompetent judge of human nature. When guys
> >are victimized in this manner, they are extingushed genetically.
>
> Not unless they remove your nutsack at the same time they tell you
> you're not this particular child's daddy.

   Until very recently, there was no reliable way for a man to learn
this information.
    Nowadays it is often possible for a guy to say, "I want a kid of my
own" and start afresh with a new spouse but the fact remains that the
detour is often ruinously expensive and men don't always keep their
fertility into old age.
    It has often occurred to me that a smart woman politician would
take the anti-feminist side of this issue. A lot of good will would be
obtained from guys for little or no loss of well-being for the
womenfolk. The thing is, DNA paternity testing is indeed becoming
common/routine and there is little reason for women to think that they
are actually going to get away with this sort of trick in the future.
    If I were Hilary R. Clinton I would get out in front on this issue.
It is better than being trampled from behind, especially if one wants
to lead.
    A lot of politicians are being very short sided on this issue.
Arguuing, as some have, that testing should be dis-allowed or that
non-paternity is no escape from child support will never prevail over
the fact that testing is easy and cheap and guys will always care a lot
what it shows.



>
> >Apparently you think that this should not matter if he also got to
> >support a child growing up. That the "relationship" can
somehow have
> >the same value despite the symbol that it has become of a total,
> >utterly ruthless betrayal that closed off his opportunity to have
kids
> >of his own..
>
> Unlike women, men can father children far into old age.
>
> >    Yeah, the kid is innocent and should not be abandoned but the
mom
> >deserves anything that happens.
> >     And this is the polite way of saying it.
>
> I agree.
>
> --
> Tarla
> ****
> The toughest time...in anyone's life...
> is when you have to kill a loved one just because
> they're the devil. -- Emo Phillips



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