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to: Bob Ackley
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2009-04-27 02:17:00
subject: Welfare

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 BK>>  I have been in CWA, IBEW, and now USWA. I have never seen an
 BK>>  example of labor violence. And we have been through several
 BK>>  strikes.

 BA> It doesn't take violence to take a set of bolt cutters to a
 BA> telephone trunk cable
 BA> or a set of diagonal wire cutters to a fiber optic cable.

 It was violence we were talking about.

 BA> Those are things that
 BA> are quick and dirty - and can be done by one person; and
 BA> unless every inch of those cables are covered by video
 BA> monitors the perpetrator will not be caught.

 Then, since we don't know who did it, it's moot.

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 BA>>> You forget that those secret elections are to be eliminated
 BA>>> under the proposed new (and horribly misnamed) legislation.

 BK>>  Maybe, maybe not. After all, if the employer sees the workers
 BK>>  signing up just ask the NLRB for an immediate election. Pre-empt  the
 BK>> union.

 BA> Maybe, maybe not nothing.  That's the *purpose* of this
 BA> legislation, to eliminate the secret ballot that the unions
 BA> keep losing.

 The purpose of the legislation is to eliminate the possibility
 of management obstructing a free election.

 ...

 BK>>  Where was this? When was this?

 BA> In Ohio AAMOF.  Late 1960s.  That may be ancient history to
 BA> you, but it does show the union mindset.

 Actually, it doesn't show anything at all. You are talking
 nearly a generation ago.

 Has there been any such cases since?

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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