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echo: herbs-n-such
to: Phil Marlowe
from: Howie Coombe
date: 2003-01-20 14:03:40
subject: GARLIC AGAIN & WELCOME BACK

Dear Phil, in regards to this message to me,.
  
 >  Howie Coombe said to Phil Marlowe


And anyone else who happened on this message,.
  
 >> that i am back on this echo, although

 > Welcome back.


Thank you, it is good to be back, albeit in a pasive capacity,.

 > I've been away for awhile as well.


Doing what exactly? if you dont mind my asking,.

 > Here are a couple of positive tidbits about garlic,


Always interested in them,.

 > the first one interesting to anyone with heart problems:


Which includes me,.

 > --------------------QUOTING-1----------------------- -----SUPPLEMENT 
       > SUBSTITUTES FOR STATINS GARLIC, OLIVE OIL, FISH OIL, BENECOL
MARGARINE       > From: "oldal4865"
 
sci.med.pharmacy Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 
 > 2003 19:21:19 -0500

 >> Niacin combined with Zocor was lowering my BP to uncomfortable levels.

 >> How about garlic oil caps? Do they have a significant effect on


A good article ending with a good question,.

 >  I attended a Diabetes Training course last night in which           
       > cholesterol/heart attack issues were raised.


Aha,.

 > The CDE quoted reputable medical sources which asserted that : a.
Fish Oil   > (minimum 2 gram/day) b. Benecol (taken as the margerine, 3
servings per      > day) c. Policosanol (10 - 30 mg/day) are partial
replacements for the        > statins which some of us cannot take.


Aha, did the CDE Nme those reputable sources, or are they known and
recognised as reputeable sources by Old Al,?.

 > Regards Old Al From: "oldal4865"
 Newsgroups:           > sci.med.pharmacy
Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure?

 >> Not familiar with those last 2 but how about the garlic and things like


Another good question,.

 >  I checked the hand-outs: 1. Olive oil is a **given**.


It is why so many Greek and italian Wone Live into triple figure's, or seem to,.

 > It is assumed that folks worried about this matter switch to olive
oil as    > their cooking oil immediately.


I know i do when i feel like a diet,.

 > (This was a lecture on supplements.


Aha,.

 > They didn't discuss olive oil as a supplement)


Fair enough,.

 > 2. Their remarks on Garlic as a supplement: "Shown to be
effective in        > reducing cholesterol, LDL, TG and increasing HDL.


And that is one of the reasons why i still use it and like it,.

 > Effects may take 4-6 weeks.


Aha,.

 > Adult daily dose 4-12 mg allicin or 3-10 grams fresh garlic or one
600-900   > mg tablet.


Give me the fresh stuff every time,.

 > ===Caution: Heat and acid destroy active components so enteric-coated
       > products show better results" 3. Benecol is a trade name
for a patented      > "plant sterol".


Aha,.

 > It is sold as the margerine (US $4 for 8 oz) and as in an expensive  
       > capsule.


And here we double the price,.

 > 4. Policosanol is a wax obtained from sugar cane(?).


This i did not know,.

 > It is sold in pill form, US $0.22 for 10 mg.


And again here we would double the price,.

 > Sorry, no citations given.


Bummer,.

 > This was a training course/lecture/seminar conducted by a C.D.E. at a
major  > hospital.


Aha,.

 > Regards Old Al

 > --------------------QUOTING-2----------------------- From:           
       > moloyama{at}yahoo.com (moloyama) Newsgroups:                      
             > rec.food.cooking,misc.health.alternative, Subject: the
BEST way to ingest    > raw garlic


This looks interesting,.

 > Date: 24 Nov 2002 12:05:49 -0800, i've been determined to find the
most      > odor-free way of eating raw garlic and after weeks of
experimenting -- i     > have found the way and wish to tell you all.


This is interesting,.

 > cut a clove into 4 pieces LENGTHWISE, so that you have 4 slender quarters.


Aha,.

 > dip it in some oil (preferably organic, nonrefined flaxseed or olive
oil),   > place it far back on your tongue, AND SWALLOW.


And how does it taste?

 > the oil lets it go down with no burning and having the clove sliced
allows   > your digestive system to better break it down to obtain the
mighty allicin.


But how does it taste,?.

 > voila.


Indeed, but how does it taste?

 > hope it works for you as well as it has for me-- because i tell you
the      > pills won't give you nearly the same benefit as the REAL
THING.


So do i, and no they will not,.

 > From: yaklord{at}aol.com (Yak Lord) actually I'd say its not bad advice,
       > though I'm used to just eating the stuff raw,.


No it is not although i like mine cooked somehow,.

 > From: jrbuffett1{at}sympatico.ca (John B) The main advantage of eating
raw      > garlic is that if you eat enough no one will smell onions on
your breath.


Very true,.

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