Replying to a message of Bob Klahn to Bob Ackley:

 BK>>>  I have been in CWA, IBEW, and now USWA. I have never seen an
 BK>>>  example of labor violence. And we have been through several
 BK>>>  strikes.

 BA>> It doesn't take violence to take a set of bolt cutters to a
 BA>> telephone trunk cable
 BA>> or a set of diagonal wire cutters to a fiber optic cable.

 BK>  It was violence we were talking about.

 BA>> Those are things that
 BA>> are quick and dirty - and can be done by one person; and
 BA>> unless every inch of those cables are covered by video
 BA>> monitors the perpetrator will not be caught.

 BK>  Then, since we don't know who did it, it's moot.

Who profits?  The union.  There's no reason for anyone other than
a union member or sympathizer to do it.

 BA>>>> You forget that those secret elections are to be eliminated
 BA>>>> under the proposed new (and horribly misnamed) legislation.

 BK>>>  Maybe, maybe not. After all, if the employer sees the workers
 BK>>>  signing up just ask the NLRB for an immediate election. Pre-empt 
 BK>>> the union.

 BA>> Maybe, maybe not nothing.  That's the *purpose* of this
 BA>> legislation, to eliminate the secret ballot that the unions
 BA>> keep losing.

 BK>  The purpose of the legislation is to eliminate the possibility
 BK>  of management obstructing a free election.

The purpose of the legislation is to eliminate the probability of the
union losing that free election.  Do try to keep up.

 BK>>>  Where was this? When was this?

 BA>> In Ohio AAMOF.  Late 1960s.  That may be ancient history to
 BA>> you, but it does show the union mindset.

 BK>  Actually, it doesn't show anything at all. You are talking
 BK>  nearly a generation ago.

I don't care if it was a generation ago, a century ago, or yesterday, it
shows the union mindset.

 BK>  Has there been any such cases since?

Probably.  I haven't been keeping up.

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