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to: Roy J. Tellason
from: Bo Simonsen
date: 2004-04-09 23:31:42
subject: OS/2-native twit filter

Roy J. Tellason wrote to Bo Simonsen about ''OS/2-native twit filter'':

 BS>> The only thing I'm not sure of is how to get Binkley working with
 BS>> MAX, I did try to use "BBS Exit", but the modem hangoff. So it
 BS>> should use BBS Spawn, but I can't test it by a NULL-modem cable,
 BS>> binkley is doing mistery things.

 RJT> So you haven't got that combination working yet.  I wonder if
 RJT> anybody has? 

Yesterday I did (read my prevouis message).

 RT>> My immediately accessible archives go back at least four years and 
 RT>> some months,  but I've been in here a lot longer than that.

 RT>> I've seen problems mentioned,  and have seen some of the resolutions
 RT>> to them posted,  but by no means all.

 BS>> What problems, I would like if you could be a bit concrete.

 RJT> I don't recall the specifics offhand,  and don't feel like digging
 RJT> into the archives just now -- just noting that when I see people
 RJT> in here getting a hold of a copy there are issues with compiling
 RJT> it,  and getting it to run,  and I don't recall anyone in here
 RJT> ever saying that they'd been successful at it,  and had Maximus
 RJT> running under linux.  If that'd been the case I surely would have
 RJT> pursued doing the same thing myself.  Now it may be that somebody
 RJT> did post such a message and it never made it here,  fido has been
 RJT> funny like that in recent times...

Well if people would use the software and report problems to me we would
get a stable maximus in less time. Right now I might be the only one which
is running Max/UNIX.

 BS>>> I don't see you problem, in what way shouldn't max work properly
 BS>>> under UNIX. Modem is tested and it works well. (I did
 BS>>> successfully do transfering and so on by a NULL-modem cable).

 RT>> Yes?  Will I be able to use it under binkley as I'm doing now under
 RT>> dos/desqview?  And perhaps use TimED or some sort of a workalike to
 RT>> get at those message bases?

 BS>> There is a bit of a problem there, In theory it should work, I'm
 BS>> just missing the right configuration parameter for binkley.

 RJT> Ah.

I were missing BBS Spawn in binkley, BBS Exit hangs up immentiently.

 BS>> But it doesn't seems like any of the Binkleyterm maintainers is
 BS>> here anymore. :(

 RJT> I suppose the bink echo might be a good place to try and look into
 RJT> that.  I do carry that here as well,  even though there hasn't
 RJT> been any traffic in there in a long time.

Nevermind got the stuff working.

 BS>>> Sorry Roy, but it seems like you haven't tried it for the last 
 BS>>> half of a year.

 RT>> I know one thing for sure,  there are posts that are out there in 
 RT>> echos that I carry that don't make it here.  I guess you can't 
 RT>> expect perfection in fidonet, it bein an amateur network and all,  
 RT>> but my understanding of the situation was that things weren't 
 RT>> finished yet.

 BS>> Aha, but I need some concrete problems...

 RJT> See above.    I have bink-max-squish-timed running here under
 RJT> dos/dv.  I'd like to switch the whole setup over to linux,  and
 RJT> have not yet heard of anyone who has done this or even something
 RJT> close.

Maybe you should start by having a "beta" machine where you
slowly got the stuff working. :)

 RJT> We also had a discussion in here about a couple of the bits that
 RJT> I'm missing, things having to do with building a files list for
 RJT> people to download and for keeping track of who's downloaded what,
 RJT> but that's fairly minor stuff.  If I get the rest of it going I'm
 RJT> sure that can be handled...

If you dare you could try my fileticker I does have aviablity of building
filelists, else you could find another program with it's source and I would
be happy to port it.

 RT>> If this is indeed not the case,  and I don't have to worry about such
 RT>> silly stuff as paths embedded in the code,  the cases of filenames,
 RT>> and some of the other things I've seen mentioned in here then by all
 RT>> means pass me a URL and I'll snag a copy and have a go at it.

 BS>> Now we are being concrete, the cases of filenames is fixed in QWK
 BS>> where it's needed too, I couldn't find any other problems.

 RJT> What does that mean,  exactly?  Is QWK working?  If so,  good, 
 RJT> because what few callers I still have these days seem to favor the
 RJT> use of it.  Is there anything I need to know with regard to it?

QWK works, and it well tested, William McBride did help me out with the
last problems (about Christmas time!).

 RT>> I have a particular reason for strongly wanting to have this work,
 RT>> too,  *if* it will work for me to replace my current setup.  I'm
 RT>> currently one of only three active systems in NET270.  Both of the
 RT>> other guys are long distance from me and from each other.

 BS>> Yes I see, but Squish has been stable for a year or so.

 RT>> I'm also LD from any possible feed,  so it's costing people money 
 RT>> to move this echomail to and from my system.  Admittedly not 
 RT>> anywhere near as much as it did when fidonet was much bigger,  but 
 RT>> still a situation I'd like to do away with.

 BS>> I understand. I'm a leafnode so I can do what I want.

 RJT> If I can get this working under linux,  I gain a few things right
 RJT> off.  First is better connectivity,  both with the other nodes in
 RJT> my net,  and with the ability to go out and get netmail and
 RJT> echomail myself without having to incur LD charges.  It would also
 RJT> enable me to get networking into the setup,  so I can build as big
 RJT> of a files section as I want and it doesn't have to reside within
 RJT> the limitations of DOS,  which it has to at this point,  nor even
 RJT> on the same machine for that matter...   There are a few other
 RJT> pluses as well. 

NFS is nice. :))

 RT>> And there are a few more bits that I need to make the transition,  as
 RT>> well...

 BS>> You might be missing third party tools yes..

 RJT> See above.  Mostly it's those two things I mention up there,  the
 RJT> files list generator and the download counter.  I'll bet I could
 RJT> deal with both of those in c,  or perhaps Perl,  with a good dose
 RJT> of bash scripting thrown in for good measure.  Once I get the
 RJT> momentum going with having the rest of the setup up and working, 
 RJT> I'll have enough incentive to work on those parts and get them
 RJT> going. 

As I said i'll be happy to help you out with the tools there is missng! :)

Bo

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