Re: SEEN-BY stripping
  By: mark lewis to Nicholas Boel on Wed Aug 07 2013 11:00 pm

 ML> yeah, i didn't think that frank did that... there are others, though, who
 ML> do... some are even "well known"...

Agreed. I was just pointing out that he doesn't do that, as a "somewhat"
verified source, since I've been friends with him and we've worked together on
stuff for years.

 NB>> How does FMail compare to HPT in regards to functionality and
 NB>> features?

 ML> no clue... i've never run HPT... i started with IMail way back in the '80s
 ML> when it first came out... it is what allowed us to get our FD/RA system
 ML> working tossing and scanning fidonet mail when the existing QBBS stuff
 ML> never did... it would work tossing and not scanning or, after some
 ML> configuration changes, it would scan but not toss... IMail did both
 ML> flawlessly... later we moved to FMail for a bit... tried gecho, too...
 ML> untimately, though, Fastecho was where it was at... as with FD and RA, i
 ML> was asked to join the beta team and i've been using all three since... i
 ML> use FMail in some cases where i need something now that works well enough
 ML> to get the job done... but for the heavy lifting, i always use FE...

In that case, I'll just assume that HPT is better. :)

If FMail is from the 80s, and someone recently posted their update wasn't much
added functionality.. 

But hey, if you know how to use it, and it works well for what you're using it
with, I have no complaints whatsoever.

I've used FE before. But now that I don't run *any* servers on any kind of
Windows operating systems.. I will never be able to use it again, unless I want
to downgrade my linux kernel to 2.4 for it to work properly, which is
completely intolerable. :)

HPT is still updated and maintained, and that's what I like about it. Kinda
like why I still hang with the Synchronet and Mystic crowds.. Love the
participation and friendship that's aquired while working together to make
something happen.

 ML> i don't understand "cover all the aspects of FTN"... it is not an
 ML> all-in-one package like DB and a few other products, no... i much prefer
 ML> to NOT use all-in-one stuff because if there's a problem with one part,
 ML> well... kinda like those all-in-one printer/fax/scanner machines... i'd
 ML> rather have each separate so that just that one can be replaced or
 ML> repaired while the others remain in place and operational ;)

I guess I see your point there. But in this case I don't see that happening.
Good programs log everything, and logs tell the tale. Usually, with something
like HPT (if it in fact is considered an all-in-one package.. I don't consider
it that), if something goes wrong, the logs direct you to where the problem
occured. Most of the time, it's user error, unless a bug is found, of course.

I don't run .MSG on my system, except for netmail. I can't use DB until JAM is
incorporated. Then I will definitely give it a run for it's worth. I've heard
great things, and love to participate in the echo (until the iron fist
moderator put me on read-only because I joked around with the developer, who is
a part of my network and a good friend of mine). But anyways..

What works for you is what works for you. I don't hold any disrespect for
anyone that uses software different from mine, as long as we're meeting at the
same goal. If I want more out of my software, I will look for it. If I can't
find it, I will modify what I have to do what I want it to do. I'm pretty happy
with what I have now, so I'm going to start a new project here soon. Hopefully
it goes as well as I plan it to. :)

Regards,
Nick

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