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from: Victoria Tarrani
date: 2003-06-23 13:12:44
subject: Re: [writing2] Fantasy characters

Well, then Laurie, I totally agree with you 100%, and we both got to say the
same thing in different ways...
:-)
It does help if I know what I'm doing, but that is so rare.....
viki


Laurie Campbell wrote:

> Laurie, I disagree with you.
>
> ?
>
> It's the journey, not the destination.
>
> That's what I say
>
> Characters grow, and if they do not, they wither and die in the minds of
> the
> readers anyway.  Fairy tales generally end with "They lived happily ever
> after..."
> but not a fantasy where love may be conquered by circumstances or death;
> the most
> significant aspect to any character's longevity is that they do learn
> from their
> mistakes and become more than they were at the beginning.  J.K.Rowling
> has
> accomplished this with her characters -- if every time the went back to
> Hogwarts
> was exactly like the first time, and each time they met a new challenge
> they dealt
> with it in the same way as they did the mountain troll in book one,
> where is the
> bravery and growth?
>
> Exactly
>
> Star Wars began at Episode IV; yet after VI we knew they lived on to
> face other
> challenges -- it was logical.  With I, II, and III we see what events
> created Darth
> Vader and the Emperor -- heck, we even know who the Emperor is in II,
> but we
> suspect it in I.
>
> Right
>
> I've read many fantasy novels, and because the characters were richly
> developed,
> think about them at times wondering what happens in their life after the
> books.
>
> The kind I like the best. What are we disagreeing about?
>
> viki
>
> >
> > >
> > >--- Laurie Campbell  wrote:
> > >
> > >> In most fantasy there's really nothing risked. There's
no struggle,
> > >> there's never any feeling that what happens is real, or matters.
> > >> The good guys *will* win, none of the major characters will die,
> > >> and when the story is
> > >> done, it's done. No loose ends, no wondering about what happened
> > >> after the story, no sense it will go on without you or ever
> > >> existed before you.
> > >
> Oh, I see!  I did not say that. I answered that because I disagreed with
> it.
>
> Helps if you quote what you're answering, and it helps if you see
> whether you're responding to an original message or a reply to one.
>
> As it happens, I agree with you.
>
> Laurie

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