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to: BOB BREED
from: Carol Shenkenberger
date: 2008-08-16 14:34:58
subject: Re: Cost of heating

>  CS> Officers?  In the CPO mess?  NOT!  The line at E7 and even more at E8
 >  CS> blends between Officers and enlisted though.
 > 
 > But since it appears you, or others like you, took over the budget et al,
 > what did the Supply officer do?  As i said, this was never given a thought
 > back in my day and I always thought some officer did all the budget and
 > buying etc?

Nope, and we are referring only to the old style 'closed mess' which we dont
have anymore.  It was only the CPO foods.  SUPPO does alot more than just
feed the CPO's .  Still, the Officers 'manage' (many work very hard
indeed) while the CPO's blend at that level to an extent.  It depends on what
the job is and the size of the ship.  An E5 may not be aware of just what the
CPO is doing ;-)

Take the case of an E1 who's life tends to be about which passageway he's
gotta clean today.  He may think I dont work at all since I seem to just sit
at a computer.  He's probably not aware I just worked out how to get him
stateside for 2 months of school. (119$ a day plus 2,000$ flights and quotas
for the class as well as berthing while there).  Meantime his buddy is
bitching because he only got a 2 week school....  They lack the perspective
on the job I'd be doing to put it together.  An E5 would come closer and an
E6 probably (if a good one) knows a good bit about what I'd be doing but may
not grasp the finer nuances of the difference in tasking on a Senior vice a
Chief (which can be dramatic at times, or can be the same job).

 >  > The only extra I ever had was on the eve watch we always made a run to CP
 >  > club and ordered hamburgers for the watch.  I think they were 35c back
 >  > then?
 > 
 >  CS> And we were happy to help watchstanders I am sure.
 > 
 > The made a buck or two on this. :)

Naw, probably not.  Was probably at cost or very near it.

 >  CS> On the Fort McHenry and the ESSEX, the standard was anyone just
 >  CS> checking in fi rst got a hot meal unless they said 'no thanks, just
 >  CS> ate'.  Didnt matter what hour.  CPO mess kept ready food on standby,
 >  CS> like something you could fast warm up if it was 3am.  Later, after
 >  CS> getting some food, we'd find out where they belonged and get'em in a
 >  CS> rack or stateroom.
 > 
 > As i understand it, even back in my day, there was supposed to be a duty
 > cook to fix something for the ongoing mid-watch.  I never once saw this guy
 > on any base!  On Guam the mid-rat was always a inch slice of gooey Spam
 > between two dry slices of weevil infested bread.

We had mid-rats too but I was rferring to the 3am or so new sailor arrival. 
We'd even have a stash of sheets and such for them incase the depertment
didnt provide.
            xxcarol



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