In article , momkulio{at}yahoo.ca says...
>
> "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,443 days to BYE-BYE Bushie!
> Forever!!"  wrote in message
> news:4208adfb.877348{at}netnews.mchsi.com...
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:06:45 -0500,
> > Jayne Kulikauskas  wrote:
> > >  Craig Chilton  wrote:
> > >>  Heidi Graw  wrote:
> > >>>  Jayne Kulikauskas  wrote:
> > >>>>  Craig Chilton  wrote:
> >
> >
> > >>>>>     Egalitarians don't give lip service to
tolerance.  We OPPOSE
> > >>>>> genuine and hateful INtolerance for the
well-being and rights of
> > >>>>> millions of people.  No wonder you don't
like fair comparisons to
> > >>>>> Hitler.  70 years ago, you probably would
have worshipped him.
> >
> > >     As an egalitarian, don't you think you should be
opposing Ms. Graw's
> > > genuine and hateful intolerance of Catholics?
> >
> >     Actually, since the Catholic Church clearly is the world's largest
> > cult, I simply regard most of its adherents to be unfortunate VICTIMS.
>
> So it is ok to be intolerant to some groups but not others?  I'd ask for a
> list of which groups are which, but you seem pretty predicatable.  I can
> probably guess.
>
> > >>>>      If I had been in Eastern Europe, I would
have been killed by
> him,
> > >>>> just like my relatives there actually were.  And
I don't appreciate
> it
> > >>>> when people like you throw Hitler's name around
whenever you
> > >>>> have a hissy fit.
> >
> > >>     ROTFL!!!!!  **You** should talk about throwing hissy
fits, whiner.
> >
> > >      Don't you think you should be more supportive of a fellow gay
> rights
> > > activist?  You did see my post about my involvement, didn't you?
> >
> >     I haven't been following your posts, since you're not a
> > participant in the groups I generally watch. But...
> >
> >     Being a gay rights activist is admirable.  Do you do the same for
> > women with respect to abortion?  If not, then you're merely a
> > "cafeteria egalitarian."
>
> I am a thinking person who decides each issue on its merits rather than
> taking sides in a stupid ideological war.  I do not want to satisfy your
> notions of a proper egalitarian.  I am pro-life and pro-gay.  Deal with it.
>
> > >>>>      It diminishes what he did when you play
your silly games calling
> > >>>> people you disagree with Hitler.
> >
> > >>     NOT when such people would be just as bad as Hitler,
if given that
> > >> level of opportunistic power.
> >
> > >     You really are tedious.
> >
> >     ONLY to those who aren't really egalitarians.  So that doesn't
> > bother me at all.
> >
> > >>>    Craig,  Jayne would have been a great KGB
informant for Stalin.
> > >>> Anyone not toeing the party line could find
themselves in a gulag
> > >>> somewhere in Siberia.  It has been claimed Stalin
killed 20 million
> > >>> people over ideological and political differences. 
She suits the
> profile
> > >>> of an intolerant.  She panders to misogynists and
submits to tyranny.
> > >>> She's quick to defend those who promote hate.
> >
> > >>     Stalin and Hitler both NEEDED lots of toadies like
her.  The world
> > >> is lucky that no such tyrants are in power today.  Since she, and
> > >> thousands of similar sycophants probably would be assisting them.
> > >> HOWEVER... if she seeks a position in the Bush Administration, she
> > >> just may be on a fast track for such a role.   He's the
biggest mass
> > >> murderer since Pol Pot.  To date -- 100,000+ innocent Iraqis, and
> > >> upwards of 1,300 of his own military...
> >
> > >      I'm a Canadian.  I doubt that I could get a position in the Bush
> > > administration and I certainly wouldn't want one.  I'm opposed to the
> > > war in Iraq and pretty much everything Bush has done.
> >
> >      I did say "IF."  However, we're together on our
mutual contempt
> > of Bush.
> >
> > >      But why deal with the complexity of reality?
> >
> >     That seems to be the way most bigots (whether or no you are one)
> > look at reality.  Relevant FACTS are *anathema* to them.
> >
> > >      I can see that it is much easier for you to imagine that I am a
> > > two-dimensional conservative that you can demonize.  In a tolerant
> > > way, of course.
> >
> >      Uh-huh.  I'll be watching with interest to see your stance
> > regarding abortion, embryonic stem cell research, etc.  Then
> > we can take it from there.
>
> So if I don't agree with you on every single issue, you feel justified in
> heaping abuse on me?  But you think of yourself as tolerant?  I'll take
> Grizzlie Antagonist's intolerance over your tolerance any day.
>

It's a sad fact of life on Usenet that the heaping of abuse is all too
common.   Those on the receiving end seldom feel that the abuse
is justified (is abuse ever justified?).   It sometimes seems that
it starts with disagreement over a single issue, but then becomes
a matter of reflex.   Sometimes you can break the cycle by taking
a vacation from Usenet for a few weeks or a month. Often that
doesn't work as the abusers often have very good memories.  ;-)
> Jayne
>
Mark Borgerson




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