"Hyerdahl3"  wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Why do men sink to the bottom?
> >From: "Avenger" me{at}avengers.co.uk
> >Date: 2/8/2005 1:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: 
> >
> >> Sure;  I think women don't always want men around them,
sometimes>even
the
> men> they married.   I had a friend who's husband raped two of their
> three>kids.
> >
> >You have nice friends.
>
> I know.  He was not my friend;  she was.
> In fact, I never knew him, and after she divorced the bastard, she never
saw
> him again.
> >
> >> >> The way she found out was another child reported a rape.  They
were>>
> >divorced.> He was kicked out of the police force and incarcerated.  She
left
> the
> >state and never tried to collect child support because she didn't want to
see
> >> >him near> her family. However, not all cases are like
that, and it is
my
> personal feeling >that> children cannot have too many people who love
them.  So
> if a woman >does try to distance a good father from her children, she
would not
> be
> >acting in >the best> interests of her children and should be
challenged
in
> court.
> >> >
> >> >Sometimes they are, but usually not very successfully.  In
general,>women
> >are> given wide latitude to behave as poorly as they like with>regards
> tointerfering with contact between the father and his children.
> >>
> >> I think I addressed this before but the fact is that the custodial
parent
> >does> have a degree of latitude based on children's needs.  If a child
has a
> >school> performance, if a child is sick, if a child has a field trip or
> sleepover,
> >it> is likely visitation will have to be altered.
> >
> >A child's father comes first not some silly sleepover or school play you
> >moron.
> >
> No, actually the CHILD comes first, dear and what is important TO the
child.
> Daddy dearest doesn't get to do dastardly deeds just because he's a
control
> freak, and THAT's the way it is.
> >> >
> Why so many men choose roles that are less >than>> that
of>primary>parenting
> is also a mystery.
> >> >> >
> It's not really a mystery, given what you use for
a>definition>of>"primary>
> parenting"  Both parents can't be home doing the majority
of>child care;>
> someone has to be bringing in the money.
> >
> >Bingo! That's the primary parent. Without money there would be no
parenting
> >except on the street.
> >
> Not in the real world, dear, but perhaps in your alternate universe.  Here
in
> the real world judges

And judges can be removed when they behave in an anti male manner:o) The
easy way or the hard way.




 like to maintian the care the child has been receiving.>
> > >> >
> >>  Well,then if that role is important to him he should marry a
woman>who
> >> supports>> >> that.> I can't speak for you,
but when I formed a
partnership
> with the>other>parent of> my three children, we decided from the get-go
who
> would stay>home> and >when.
> >> >
> We didn't have that option--both of us had to work.
Fortunately,>we>decided
> >> to work shifts opposite one another so that our son always
had>at least
> >one> parent at home most of the time.  Which would have made >for an
> interesting time if a divorce occured--try distinguishing>primary
> >> parent between two people sharing child care and breadwinning>roles.
But
> >the
> >> easy answer is:  my wife would have gotten custody by
> >> >default, because she was the mother.  "Primary
parenting" really means
> >> >little.
> >> >>
> I think a real world definition of primary
parenting>would>acknowledge>the>
> >> efforts of the person bringing in the money that allows
the>household
> >> >to>> function, get health care, etc...
> >> >> >
> >> >> No.  What you want is a decision based on finances. 
The courts
don't
> >judge the best interests of children based on who makes the paycheck.
> >
> >They should and they will.
> >
> The shouldn't, they don't and you're...stuck.  So sad; too bad.

Keep dreaming stupid. Laws means NOTHING without the muscle to back them up
and since there are 1000 men(armed) for every gov't worker who do you think
will prevail in the end?



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