On 8 Feb 2005 07:55:44 -0800, "Ian"  wrote:

>I want to state here that I can't abide these nonces who assert there's
>no valid reason for physical violence.
>

Go back and re-read and comprehend. I say EXACTLY what I mean. I said
"No JUSTIFICATION". There is a HUGE difference.

>I can think of hundreds of reasons when I'd advocate it.
>
>1. When seeing boys unjustly attacking girls.

DO you need to use violence? Can youo just interfere and stop the
attack or do you feel the need to punish the attacker? If so do you
really think that is your job??

>2. When you've attempted the other solutions to stopping your young
>child running out in front of cars.

OK. Try to be coherent here for a second. What does a child running
out in front of a car have to do with this example and discussion?

>3. When someone's about to steal from you.

So, you feel it is OK to pummel somebody to the ground and rape and
terrorize them for taking material items from you? That's a bit scary.

>4. When someone's a child molester, even if he's not doing it right
>then.

I don't think any hell is too bad for a molester. But I will not
accept the fact that any one individual or and vigilantie group had
the right top punish them... no matter how good it might sound at the
time. We are not barbarians mind you!

>5. When your wife is going to steal everything you have, despite it
>being her behaviour that's caused the breakup of the marriage. (See
>Noel Edmonds' whore.)

Hummm..... So, you would advocate rape, abuse and terror as responses
to a wife with bad judgement or a decietful nature? Tell me, DO you
still favor disembowelment and drawing and quartering as acceptable
punishments for crimes too?

>6. When you've tried everything else, and it hasn't worked.
>

Now that is a true neandertal concept. Ugg... Not work... Bash!

>Of course, I understand that people will disagree with me, but
>adolescents didn't rape grannies for their pension when men acted on
>the whole the way I advocate.

Adolescents didn't rape grannies when the MAJORITY of the families in
this country HAD FATHERS living in the home WITH THEM!!!

You want answers, start looking at the real causes. Take the father
out of the family and sadly the family has no direction or base
anymore. Don't believe me??? Take a look back at the rising divorce
rate and you will see that it pretty much apralells the rise in
juvinile violence!




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