CS> very hard indeed) while the CPO's blend at that level to an extent.  It
 CS> depends on what the job is and the size of the ship.  An E5 may not be
 CS> aware of just what the CPO is doing ;-)

Very true in my day, and E5 was really a sweet spot.  Not high enough to 
get a lot of this management bull, but high enough to avoid messcooking. :)


 CS> Take the case of an E1 who's life tends to be about which passageway
 CS> he's gotta clean today.  He may think I dont work at all since I seem
 CS> to just sit at a computer.  He's probably not aware I just worked out
 CS> how to get him stateside for 2 months of school. (119$ a day plus
 CS> 2,000$ flights and quotas for the class as well as berthing while
 CS> there).  Meantime his buddy is bitching because he only got a 2 week
 CS> school....  They lack the perspective on the job I'd be doing to put it
 CS> together.  An E5 would come closer and an E6 probably (if a good one)
 CS> knows a good bit about what I'd be doing but may not grasp the finer
 CS> nuances of the difference in tasking on a Senior vice a Chief (which
 CS> can be dramatic at times, or can be the same job).

Of course the senior and master chief thing was after my days so have no 
idea just what they did, but from what you state it looks like you're just 
a cheap officer?   I may be wrong but I suspect those things you state 
above were not done by a CPO of my day, but rather by officer types?

 > They made a buck or two on this. :)

 CS> Naw, probably not.  Was probably at cost or very near it.

Probably.  :)

 > As i understand it, even back in my day, there was supposed to be a duty
 > cook to fix something for the ongoing mid-watch.  I never once saw this guy
 > on any base!  On Guam the mid-rat was always a inch slice of gooey Spam
 > between two dry slices of weevil infested bread.

 CS> We had mid-rats too but I was rferring to the 3am or so new sailor
 CS> arrival. We'd even have a stash of sheets and such for them incase the
 CS> depertment didnt provide.

My arrival on Guam was about 0200. I was in blues and a Peacoat when I left 
Japan in the snow. 8 hours later I was on Guam and it was 80 degrees and it 
took forever for some jeep to run me from (Anderson AFB?) down the road to 
the NCS, and maybe another 45 minutes after that to find a bunk so I could 
get out of those blues and Peacoat.

Meal wasn't a factor, believe me.  :)




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