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to: ERIC THOMPSON
from: GLENN CHRISTENSEN
date: 1998-05-21 19:23:00
subject: stuff 1/

ET>GC>And, while I recognize the bait you are setting out, yeah, I might
ET>GC>be able to extend that view to parents who failed to use the V-Chip.
ET>ET> Ok, so what you're saying is that you would, given your
ET>ET> druthers, extend the scope of the v-chip law from the silliness
ET>ET> it is now to some government dictation of what shows parents may
ET>ET> permit their children to watch?
ET>        If you're willing to punish parents for not using the V-chip,
ET>        you do just that.
That "I might be able to extend that view" remains a "might." (Gee.
Wished I hadn't gobbled up that bait you set out here. ) However, it
would have to be very special circumstances. Already, we seem to be
going after parents for things which are no one else's business. What's
one's business and what constitutes child abuse can get very murky.
ET>GC>I suppose you still use a rotary telephone also? What do you have
ET>GC>against progress?
ET>        Ha-ha.  That's just sidestepping the issue.  When a perfectly
ET>        good solution exists (the off switch), why *impose* a new one?
For the reason we are having this conversation. The old OFF knob IS NOT
the best solution.
ET>        Actually, the information you need is "I don't like this show
ET>        and/or I don't want my kids to watch it."  Sorry if the
ET>        broadcasters can't read your mind...
Well, you must watch a lot more tv than I do to feel that is sufficient.
I don't know what is airing out there on most shows. Now I can make
educated guess about a lot of them. If it sounds like a cop show, then
likely there is violence. But this probably isn't quite as accurate as
having a lable on the show that says it is violent.
Thanks for admitting I HAVE a mind.
ET>GC>Here is another point of consideration. Where do so many get the idea
ET>GC>that ratings would vary so much from one person to the next?
ET>        Maybe because people have VERY different opinions on what shows
ET>        are appropriate for children?  I don't have a problem with, say,
ET>        SOUTH PARK for 11-year-olds and up (the worst risk there is your
ET>        kid turning into a potty-mouth, but kids have been that way for
You might not want to lock out a show via the V-chip because of
profanity. So you don't do it.
ET>        decades out-of-hearing of their parents), but I wouldn't let
ET>        impressionable children watch *anything* on the Trinity
ET>        Broadcasting Network without supervision and discussion.
What!? Are you now saying the media CAN have an influence?
ET>GC>Is it really going to be so difficult to get say, most of the
ET>GC>people to agree on what constitutes a reasonable rating system? I don't
ET>GC>think I've ever seen ANY rating system, in use or proposed, that didn't
ET>GC>basically cover the playing field. Have you?
ET>        A rating system can be a decent *guide*, as the movie rating
ET>        system is, but many ratings will be disputed.  Many people
ET>        complained that the original BATMAN got a too-low rating, for
ET>        instance.  DOC HOLLYWOOD had full-frontal nudity (and was
ET>        PG-13)  You can't always rely on a ratings system as
ET>        "protection".
I agree. If we had the V-chip, that certainly shouldn't be where
parentile responsibility ends. (I don't think full-frontal nudity, by
itself, qualifies as sex content either).
ET>GC>Consequently, when Bruce Willis says, "Yeah, let's nogotiate,"
ET>GC>theatre chuckles. For most children under 10, a room full of
ET>GC>adults just approved of lying and shooting-up a bunch of people.
ET>        But this is not a children's TV show or a children's movie,
ET>        correct?  Any child under 10 in an R-rated movie or PG-13 movie
ET>        only got in with an adult.
ET>        I was specifically going for something on *TV*.
It will be on tv. What's the difference?
ET>        As above, all the examples you brought up were movies aimed at
ET>        adults.
Of course. I don't think there'd be many things aimed at children that
I'd want to use the V-chip on.
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