BK>>BK>> Why can't two beings within the same body have the same rights?

BK>> SK> Because ONE (the host) is sentient, the other is not, of
BK>> SK> course!

BK>> When does a baby become sentient?

 SK> The data seems to suggest that somewhere between the 1st
 SK> and 2nd trimester the fetus MIGHT be able process pain
 SK> signals beyond mere reflex.

 Until you can pinpoint a valid dividing point, there is no
 differentiation.

BK>>What is the difference 1 minute before birth and one minute after?

 SK> None.

 Agreed.

 SK> I'm not for 9th month abortions though, of course.

 Tell me just how far back is safe?

BK>> Foo on you. Death is the issue.

 SK> That's right. And "death" needs to be defined.
 SK> Seems it has been.

 Not sure about that.

BK>> SK> Enslavement of women is the issue!

BK>> Then don't do that.

 SK> I'm not doing it. People that wish to force women to carry
 SK> pregnancies to term are!

 So, you get to chose between enslaving a woman or killing a
 child.

BK>> SK> If YOU don't want women to have abortions...STOP HAVING SEX
BK>> SK> WITH WOMEN! (not that you do). ;)

BK>> SK> It's up to the woman then, not YOU!
BK>> SK> Who do you think you are? Her God?

BK>> She is her baby's God, now isn't she.

 SK> She is the owner of her body!

 And that of her baby.

BK>> SK> If YOUR disgusting God exists, as you know it...
BK>> SK> she (the WHORE) will "go to hell", and the
"baby" will "go
BK>> SK> to heaven". Who's hurt? No one!

BK>> The whole world is.

 SK> Your God did it then! :P

 Nope. My God doesn't do abortions.

 As a priest said, decades ago, the church requires us to believe
 there is a hell, it does not require us to believe anyone is
 really there.

BK>> For an unbeliever you are sure hung up on hell and punishment
BK>> and rewards.

 SK> To debate a person such as you one must assume their (your)
 SK> points of conviction to be true so as to then deconstruct
 SK> them. It's called reasoned debate.

 First you must understand them, and get them right.

BK>> SK> Nuff said.

BK>> If it were it would all be settled. It isn't.

 SK> "Nuff said", in that context, simply inferred that what was
 SK> said is all that SHOULD be needed.

 Oh. Nah!

 SK> Of course unreasonable persons of questionable intellect
 SK> and limited honor will differ. ;)

 And you differ with my position?

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

... You know,"If it bleeds, it leads"? Add,"Hate sells
better than compassion."
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