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echo: crossfire
to: STEVE KEMP
from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2007-11-25 22:30:00
subject: Your Conversion.

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BK>> All religious governments eventually become tyrannies. Usually
BK>> before very long. I do not believe there has ever been an
BK>> exception in recorded history.

 SK> Agreed. Religion IS tyranny!

 As I said in the preceeding msg, regarding my positions, first
 you have to get them right.

 Some religions are tyrannies, religion is not a tyranny

BK>> SK> Israel is an Iran to me! (and NO they are NOT a democracy!)

BK>> SK> The United States should be all up in Isreals' face, not
BK>> SK> Irans!

BK>> Possibly both.

 SK> I think we can deal with Iran with diplomacy.
 SK> Iran has been "Westernized" for decades!
 SK> They would be easy to lead into "Peace".

 Uh... it's not necessarily that simple. The US has been
 westernized since there was a westernized to be. Yet peace seems
 to be a hard goal to lead to.

 SK> Israel is the spoiled youngest child.
 SK> Seems no one wants to yank the lolly out it's mouth.
 SK> For if ya do...you'll be called a racist, Anti-Semite,
 SK> Nazi, or worse!

 To deny that both sides have legitimate greviances is to
 guarantee eternal war. Or genocide as the only alternative.

BK>> We certainly should not back any country without limit.

 SK> Again, agreed.

 SK> And our respect/support for Israel over all others is the
 SK> prime reason for the terrorist threats we encounter now.

 Nope. Don't agree a bit. Israel has little to do with current
 terrorist threats except as a distraction used by the terror
 instigators.

 It's a power trip, and the power seekers could not care less who
 they hurt to get it.

 SK> Secondary is our history of ignoble involvements in the
 SK> middle east, of course.

 Now that is a good point.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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