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echo: memories
to: Carol Shenkenberger
from: Joe Mackey
date: 2008-09-06 09:50:06
subject: RHIP

Carol Shenkenberger -> Joe Mackey wrote:

 CS> I don't try to force round peg into a square hole.

 CS> The downside of military is you get what you get and have to figure out how
 CS> to work with it.

  We (in parking) have always had trouble with higher ups {in whatever
company I was working with {we are contracted out}) sending a warm body. 
We don't want warm bodies, we want people who will work.

 >> This one fella was rising though the ranks and at that
 >> time was supervisor yet was right in there working with the guys.  His boss
 >> told him was not to do that.  I can't recall her exact words but something
 >> along the lines of not being managerial and wasn't seen as an authority
 >> figure.

 CS> In fact, they *both* have a point.  There's a fine line that has to be
 CS> worked.  The guys need to know when the going gets tough, the boss will get
 CS> right in there and help.

  When I first started in parking (January, '02) the super (a sergeant)
spent all her time in the office.  Being really new, only there a day or
two, I didn't have a clue about "office politics" at the site. 
(I know about office politics, just not what was what there).  She made a
big deal one day about giving some award she cut and pasted off the net, to
this fella for all the work he did one month having to do everything.
Naturally all we newbies were highly impressed.  It was only later I
learned she never left the office for "the field" unless she was
forced to and then for as short a time as possible, say an hour or two. 
Then she hurried back to her video games.  Really.  She played them hours
on end, on company time.  She was supposed to have been helping this one
guy but never lifted a finger.

 CS> It's got a name.  It's called 'rise til you fall down'.  Most folks never
 CS> rise above middle management because they do not know when to let go and
 CS> become bogged down in the mundane which isnt why they were hired to
 CS> *manage*.

  There is also "The Peter Principle", created by Dr Lawrence
Peter in the late 60s-early 70s.  In essence one rises to the level of
their incompetence.  The more incompetent the higher in an organisation
they rise.
  Umm.  Wait a minute.  Wait a minute!!!  I've gone from co to mod here...
Wonder if that means I'm getting more incompetent?
  And from officer to sergeant to lieutenant in 16 months with the new
security company.  Hmmmm
  But I imagine there are ALWAYS exceptions...
  Joe

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