On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:45:03 -0500, "Stephanie Stowe"
 wrote:

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>"Cloaked"  wrote in message
>news:420cdf31.5455562{at}news.individual.net...
>> While marriage is not "mandatory" as you put it, it is
certainly well
>> advertised as THE thing to do!
>>
>> Indeed, in my teens and early twenties there was pressure to marry as
>> everyone else was. When I finally did get married, then there was the
>> pressure to have children!
>>
>> There is always the "if everyone jumped off a cliff" argument. But
>> then there is not a lot of social pressure to jump of cliffs!
>>
>> No, no one put a real gun to may head. But the message from society is
>> clear - people get married and have children. Marriage is the norm and
>> it is pervasive. So the proverbial gun is definitely there.
>>
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>
>There are tons of messages from society that I happily ignore. I hate the
>societal messages cop out for doing one's own thinking/
>
>> Fortunately, my ex had fertility problems and we were unable to have
>> children.
>>
>> Be that as it may, the current practice of raping a mans wallet in a
>> divorce will ultimately take its toll on society.
>
>
>Why is it the family's money during a marriage but suddenly the man's money
>during a divorce? I make more than DH. All this money is *our* money. If we
>were to split, heaven help us, and he were to get custody, heaven help me,
>then I would pay him money. This would make sense. Could there be a
>correlation between people with "my" attitudes and divorce?
>
>I am being way snarkier than usual due to being tired. But am I the only
>person who gets sick of this women-are-evil-incarnate and I-got-screwed
>baloney?
>

I know that not ALL women are evil. But being screwed in divorce /
family court is a way more common occurence for men than it is for
women. That is - at this time - a FACT.

If you were to divorce, and had to pay your ex, I would be surprized.
If so, you would be the exception not the rule.

Even when women make more money around here, they are rarelt ordered
to pay support to their ex hubby. There are some cases where they are,
but not many.

So much for equal treatment before the law.

If women regularly suffered the indignity that men do at the hands of
the law, then I would not be complaining.

Discussing inequity in the system and raising awareness is the first
step to bringing about change. Keeping our heads in the sand will not
solve the problem. Don't shoot the messanger.

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>> The long term
>> effect, as men become aware of the perrils of divorce, will be that
>> men will not get married. This will lead to the courts using even a
>> "common law" cohabitation as a pseudo-marriage. IMHO,
this will lead
>> to a decrease in cohabitaiton as well. Then women having children out
>> of "wedlock" will be availed of the the same rememdies legally as
>> those who married or cohabitated! The long-term prognosis is a
>> breakdown of relations between men & women to the point that there
>> will be no population growth in the "civilized" world.
>>
>
>> This is where the real problems begin. You see, our economies have
>> been designed around "growth". If the population base declines, so
>> does the tax and revenue base! Governments will no longer be able to
>> maintain the services they provide without tax increases! But tax
>> increases beyond current levels will kill the economy! And with jobs
>> being sent south and overseas, ... It is my opinion that we are headed
>> for a depression which will make the 1930's look like a picnic in the
>> park!
>>
>> It may take another 100 years to happen, but it WILL happen. The only
>> consolation I can take is that there is a chance it wont happen in my
>> lifetime. What a wonderful legacy to leave for our children.
>>
>> On 11 Feb 2005 07:52:20 -0800, Doug Anderson
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>"Ian"  writes:
>>>
>>>> Marriage is just another way the government ensures that
people without
>>>> the ability to survive on their own, get money from people who can.
>>>
>>>Ah, yes.  This would explain why the government makes marriage
>>>mandatory.
>>>
>>>Or maybe you are referring to the US government's policy of
>>>"rewarding" those who marry with higher tax rates?
>>
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