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from: Greg Mayman
date: 2002-12-12 08:16:00
subject: Aloe Vera [6/7]

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   BL>     stuff preserved.  It is expensive and unknown in content
   as far as I can tell.  I'd rather stick to the whole leaf for
   now.

   At least you know it hasn't been tampered with. 

   BL>     nor am I HIV+, so I don't need to carpet bomb my gut. ;)

   No one does. Strong laxatives are the basis for the complaint
   that the cure was worse than the disease! :-)

   Keep talking, Buzz. I am finding your experience fascinating.
   Other than the laxative effect, have you noticed any other
   quantifiable changes?

From:   Patricia Christmas
   BL>     I'm going to retry it again, but I'm going to spread it
   out over the entire week, sort of like a glass a day.  That will
   ramp it back up slowly and will sustain it at a more constant
   level.  I'm not sick, nor am I HIV+, so I don't need to carpet
   bomb my gut. ;)

   Well,  live and learn,  dear,  live and learn! (G)

   Good luck,  and thanks for the info.
   Patricia

From:   Gail Farquhar
   -=>     Quoting Buzz Lange to Patricia Christmas <=-
   BL>     Well, I had a Hell of a time with it.  I think it
   backwashed me right up to my tonsils.  Frazier takes his whole
   leaf once per week in three or four doses after heavy meals.  I
   didn't know this and belted almost a quart of the stuff down over
   two hours.  I was communing with Nature the rest of the evening.
   I have stopped taking it after the first leaf, but I plan to make
   more tomorrow morning and follow his method.

   BL>     Since I tried it, I have been inundated in data from all
   sorts of sources about aloe products with the bad stuff removed
   and the good stuff preserved.  It is expensive and unknown in
   content as far as I can tell.  I'd rather stick to the whole leaf
   for now.

   BL>     I'm going to retry it again, but I'm going to spread it
   out over the entire week, sort of like a glass a day.  That will
   ramp it back up slowly and will sustain it at a more constant
   level.  I'm not sick, nor am I HIV+, so I don't need to carpet
   bomb my gut. ;)

   According to Michael T. Murray, ND in his book _The Healing Power
   of Herbs_, a latex in the *second* layer of aloe leaves, the
   "underskin" that appears corrugated, is responsible for most of
   the laxative (or purgative, if you take enough of it  )
   properties of aloe, so it stands to reason that if you remove
   this layer before you eat the leaf you'll avoid a LOT of
   unpleasantness. The polysaccharides that are responsible for the
   antiviral and immunopotentiating effects of aloe, as well as the
   stimulation of wound repair; the glycoproteins, anthraquinones
   and salicylates that help with the antiinflammatory/anti-allergy
   effects; the prostaglandins and fatty acids, especially
   gamma-linolenic acid, that exert antiinflammatory, anti-allergy,
   platelet aggregation suppressive and wound healing effects AND
   the serine carboxypeptidase, minerals, vitamins, sterols and
   amino acids that aloe contains are concentrated in the inner gel,
   so you can use IT instead.

   He details research that indicates that aloe gel or juice, taken
   internally, is effective in healing peptic ulcers, as a
   gastrointestinal tonic, as an aid to treating AIDS in humans
   (although it only appears to be TRULY helpful in those patients
   with a T cell count>      150/cc AND a p24 level<300) and feline
   leukemia in cats, as a treatment for asthma, as an antimicrobial
   equal to or slightly better than silver sulfadiazine, as an
   antifungal and to promote the healing of all but surgical-type
   (deeply incised) wounds. One interesting tidbit is that aloe
   leaves stored in the dark at 4 degrees C. (can we say
   refrigerator?) have a greater than ten-fold increase in neutral
   polysaccharide content.

   Since Murray also states that the potency of aloe preparations is
   *extremely* variable, and effective dosages have yet to be
   completely defined anyway, perhaps you'd be best off making your
   own juice from skinned leaves that you've kept refrigerated for a
   week.

From:   Buzz Lange
   SP>     How big a leaf? THere is a great difference in size
   between a potbound crowded planting on a windowsill, and the leaf
   from an inground free-growing cultivar outside. :-)

   SP>     Or, failing that, how many total ounces do you think you
   ingest?

   The leaves are between 18" and 24" long, and about as wide as the
   keys on your keyboard (5 rows) at the widest part of the leaf.
   These puppies are heavy, too.  When I cut them into cross
   sections, the gell is over 1/2" thick and is transparent.  I have
   never liked the smell.

   SP>     Keep talking, Buzz. I am finding your experience
   fascinating. Other than the laxative effect, have you noticed any
   other quantifiable changes?

   Since the first time, I haven't gotten back on a schedule.  When
   I take the aloe, I try to keep it to one leaf per week.  I grind
   the chunks up and add orange juice to make it drinkable.
   Somewhere between 2:1 and 1:1 (aloe:OJ) works best for me.  Your
   mileage may vary..

   I noticed that I could think and dream better.  I'll be more
   quantitative when I start again.  I have put a supermicro into my
   system, and Intel has screwed everyone by releasing a defective
   chipset.  Don't go near the Triton-II set, it has mega problems.
   Unfortunately, the new computer has been configured as our
   server, and without it, all the other machines have to be
   reorganized.  I put the aloe on the back burner because I am
   running on no sleep for days.

   Hmm.  I couldn't do that before.  It lasts for 5-6 days before
   the effect reverts to my norm.  I suppose that is yet another
   "change".

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