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from: Rich
date: 2007-02-12 07:48:32
subject: Re: A Windows expert opts for a Mac life

From: "Rich" 

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   You do realize you are quoting apple's marketing for their server =
product not their client.  Very different product.  Also, how little =
exactly is apple's server used?  Do you know?

Rich

  "Ad"  wrote in message =
news:45d04879{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    I suspect most of the world, at least the rational world, would=20
  > disagree.  When the mac succeeds it is mostly because of the mac =
bits=20
  > not the underlying bsd or mach bits.  Comments like your usually =
come=20
  > from *ix zealots.
  > =20

  Nope it's a statement of fact. I know 3 developers who use the Mac & =
all=20
  do so because at heart it's a Unix.

  Let's see what apple say...

  http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/

  "Mac OS X Server gives you everything you need to provide=20
  standards-based workgroup and Internet services =97 without the =
complexity=20
  of Linux or the cost inherent in other UNIX-based solutions."


  other Unix-based solutions? Implies OSX is a Unix based solution.

  & then:

  "UNIX at the core

  The power and simplicity of Mac OS X Server begin with a UNIX-based=20
  foundation built around the Mach microkernel and the latest advances=20
  from the open source BSD community. The result is a stable,=20
  high-performance 64-bit computing platform that=92s ideal for =
deploying=20
  server-based applications and services."


  & later:

  "Industry-Leading Management Tools

  You don=92t need to be a UNIX guru to take advantage of Mac OS X =
Server=20
  and its full complement of services. Server Admin provides a graphical =

  user interface that makes it easy to configure, manage and monitor=20
  services from any Internet-connected Mac OS X system."


  How odd that even Apple disagree with you.

  >    In regard to scot, the main reason to not make such a bogus claim =
is=20
  > that scot doesn't.  Scot doesn't mention *ix at all in any of the =
three=20
  > parts of his story.
  > =20

  Indeed but the fact remains that he swapped from Windows to a Unix.


  Adam
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   You do
realize you are =
quoting apple's=20
marketing for their server product not their client.  Very = different=20
product.  Also, how little exactly is apple's server
used?  Do = you=20
know?
 
Rich
 

  "Ad" <Dobbin{at}theStablesC=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin{at}theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com>=20
  wrote in message news:45d04879{at}w3.nls.net...Ri=
ch=20
  wrote:>    I suspect most of
the world, at least =
the=20
  rational world, would > disagree.  When the mac
succeeds =
it is=20
  mostly because of the mac bits > not the underlying bsd or mach =

  bits.  Comments like your usually come > from *ix=20
  zealots.>  Nope it's a
statement of fact. I know 3 =

  developers who use the Mac & all do so because at heart it's a =

  Unix.Let's see what apple say...http://www.apple.com/server/" target="new">http://www.apple.com/server/=">http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/">http://www.apple.com/server/=
macosx/"Mac=20
  OS X Server gives you everything you need to provide =
standards-based=20
  workgroup and Internet services =97 without the complexity of =
Linux or the=20
  cost inherent in other UNIX-based
solutions."other =
Unix-based=20
  solutions? Implies OSX is a Unix based solution.&=20
  then:"UNIX at the coreThe
power and simplicity of Mac =
OS X=20
  Server begin with a UNIX-based foundation built around the Mach=20
  microkernel and the latest advances from the open source BSD =
community.=20
  The result is a stable, high-performance 64-bit computing platform =
that=92s=20
  ideal for deploying server-based applications and=20
  services."&
later:"Industry-Leading Management =

  ToolsYou don=92t need to be a UNIX guru to take advantage of =
Mac OS X=20
  Server and its full complement of services. Server Admin provides =
a=20
  graphical user interface that makes it easy to configure, manage =
and=20
  monitor services from any Internet-connected Mac OS X=20
  system."How odd that even Apple disagree with=20
  you.>    In regard
to scot, the main reason =
to not=20
  make such a bogus claim is > that scot doesn't.  Scot =
doesn't=20
  mention *ix at all in any of the three > parts of his=20
  story.>  Indeed but the
fact remains that he =
swapped from=20
  Windows to a
Unix.Adam

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