To:
Cc:
From: "Broc Olson"
Reply-To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C3531C.76A3C5A0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They don't look to people like the ones on this list to determine what
make= s it popular or not. They look to people like my mom. She bought the
movie= s and considers herself an honest to goodness trekkie...who doesn't
know on= e movie from the next. Baywatch was a popular show that had no
plot, no st= ory yet had young men and women in swimsuits, and it pulled
high ratings. = These are also the same people that made Beavis and
Butthead popular and yo= u wonder why Trek on TV is hitting the
skids?=20=20=20
They're not catering to Trekkies or the Fans. They're catering to people
li= ke my mom...who don't know the difference.
Broc Olson =20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: DarkHrzn91701{at}aol.com=20
To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [trekcreative] Fw: [charlemagne] Trek Bosses Defend Franchis=
e
In a message dated 7/25/03 8:41:59 PM CDT, jayphailey{at}tic1.net writes:
> I compare the reworking to a slow evolution to "Bay watch on=20
> a space ship" because someone has the idea that people=20
> watching Trek are stupid.
That does appear where the clueless twins (B&B) are
headed. It's obvious they hold nothing but contempt for the
fans. Several comments Berman has made since Nemesis
have pretty much confirmed that.
You'd think they'd realize that "fans" =3D "viewers" but not=20
those two.
They won't listen to the fans, they don't know why the ratings have
tanked, they don't see bad box office as an indicator, the fact
Activision wants out of their Trek contracts is just some
incidental occurance, the lack of Trek merchandise at places like
ToysRUs doesn't even appear on their radar screen, Enterprise
wasn't even close to being nominated for best dramatic series,=20
they get continual bad reviews and not just from TV Guide...
By what measure do they gauge their success or failure by?
-Michael Gray
Star Trek: Dark Horizon
http://hometown.aol.com/darkhrzn91701/main.htm
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20
ADVERTISEMENT
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
Star Trek; The E-mail Commands
Post message: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: trekcreative-subscribe{at}yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: trekcreative-unsubscribe{at}yahoogroups.com
List owner: trekcreative-owner{at}yahoogroups.com
Get Digest: trekcreative-digest{at}yahoogroups.com
Web only: trekcreative-nomail{at}yahoogroups.com
Normal: trekcreative-normal{at}egroups.com=20
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C3531C.76A3C5A0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
They don't look to people like the
ones on this
list to determine what makes it popular or not. They look to
people like my mom. She bought the movies and considers herself an honest
to goodness trekkie...who doesn't know one movie from the next.
Baywatch was a popular
show that had no plot, no story yet had young men and women in swimsuits, and it
pulled high ratings. These are also the same people that
made Beavis and Butthead popular and you wonder why Trek on TV is
hitting the skids?
They're not catering to Trekkies
or the Fans.
They're catering to people like my mom...who don't know the
difference.
Broc Olson < Byark!>
----- Original Message
-----
From:
mailto:DarkHrzn91701{at}aol.com"
title=DarkHrzn91701{at}aol.com>DarkHrzn91701{at}aol.com
To: mailto:trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com"
title=trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com>trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Friday, July 25, 2003 9:50
PM
Subject:
Re: [trekcreative] Fw:
[charlemagne] Trek Bosses Defend Franchise
In a message dated 7/25/03 8:41:59 PM CDT, jayphailey{at}tic1.net">mailto:jayphailey{at}tic1.net">jayphailey{at}tic1.net
writes:>
I compare the reworking to a slow evolution to "Bay watch on
> a space
ship" because someone has the idea that people >
watching Trek are
stupid.That does appear where the clueless twins (B&B)
areheaded. It's obvious they hold nothing but contempt for
thefans. Several comments Berman has made since
Nemesishave
pretty much confirmed that.You'd think they'd realize
that "fans" =
"viewers" but not those two.They
won't listen to the fans, they
don't know why the ratings havetanked, they don't see bad box office as
an
indicator, the factActivision wants out of their Trek contracts is just
someincidental occurance, the lack of Trek merchandise at places
likeToysRUs doesn't even appear on their radar screen,
Enterprisewasn't even close to being nominated for best dramatic series,
they get continual bad reviews and not just from TV
Guide...By what
measure do they gauge their success or failure by?-Michael
GrayStar Trek: Dark Horizonhttp://hometown.aol.com" target="new">http://hometown.aol.com">http://hometown.aol.com/darkhrzn91701/main.htm">http://hometown.aol.com
/darkhrzn91701/main.htmStar
Trek; The E-mail CommandsPost message:
trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.comSubscribe:
trekcreative-subscribe{at}yahoogroups.comUnsubscribe:
trekcreative-unsubscribe{at}yahoogroups.comList owner:
trekcreative-owner{at}yahoogroups.comGet Digest:
trekcreative-digest{at}yahoogroups.comWeb only:
trekcreative-nomail{at}yahoogroups.comNormal:
trekcreative-normal{at}egroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
subject to the Yahoo!">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
Yahoo! Groups
Sponsor
ADVERTISEMENThttp://rd.yahoo.com/M=251812.3170658.4537139.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170501
9987:HM/A=1652964/R=0/SIG=11t2ts2ch/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=601782
76&partid=3170658" alt="">
http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netf
lix/yhoo0603_b_300250A.gif" alt="click here"
width="300" height="250"
border="0">
http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=2518
12.3170658.4537139.1261774/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1652964/rand=599772416">
Star Trek; The E-mail Commands
Post message: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com Subscribe:
trekcreative-subscribe{at}yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe:
trekcreative-unsubscribe{at}yahoogroups.com List owner:
trekcreative-owner{at}yahoogroups.com Get Digest:
trekcreative-digest{at}yahoogroups.com Web only:
trekcreative-nomail{at}yahoogroups.com Normal:
trekcreative-normal{at}egroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C3531C.76A3C5A0--
--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
* Origin: Email Gate (1:379/100)
SEEN-BY: 633/267 270
@PATH: 379/100 101 1 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267
SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com
Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.