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   None, right.  In other words, no benchmark that compares Microsoft =
products favorably to others is one you would consider as credible.  = What
a surprise.  Who would have guessed?

Rich

  "Joe Barr"  wrote in message =
news:pan.2003.05.10.03.04.15.532297{at}austin.rr.com...

  You pathetic fool.  Do you think I am the only one who distrusts =
claims by
  Microsoft?  What a hoot.  Your firm is the most despised on the face =
of
  the earth.  It got that distinction the old fashioned way: you earned =
it.



  On Fri, 09 May 2003 19:44:32 -0700,  wrote:

  >    Do you consider any benchmark that demonstrates something you =
dislike
  >    as having the potential to be credible.  If so, can you give =
several
  >    examples of credible benchmarks that compare Microsoft products
  >    favorably to competing products particularly anything related to =
linux?
  >=20
  >    As for the rest of your drivel, what's the matter?  Are you so =
ahamed
  >    of yourself that you need to try to change the topic and post =
more lies
  >    and childish insults?
  >=20
  > Rich
  >=20
  >   "Joe Barr"  wrote in message
  >   news:pan.2003.05.10.01.40.38.63195{at}austin.rr.com...
  >=20
  >   Are you taking a break from your Passport security duties, Mister
  >   Shupak? Damn, a trillion dollar fine here and a trillion dollar =
fine
  >   there and it's bound to get even Bill Gates' attention, eh?
  >=20
  >   Let me rephrase my request.  Are there any benchmarks from =
credible
  >   sources?  Microsoft most definitely does not fit into that =
category.
  >   Lying assholes like you, Richard Shupak, are a large part of the =
reason
  >   for that.
  >=20
  >   By the way, MS scum were all over the Texas Senate chambers =
yesterday.
  >   They are terrified, they are pissing their pants, they are =
trembling in
  >   fear, over the fact that a bill having to do with state software
  >   purchases might contain the phrase "open source."
  >=20
  >   The whole a list of MS shills showed up: CompTIA, ACT, ISC, and =
the BSA.
  >   You would fit right with them.  Each lied through their teetch, =
claiming
  >   neutrality in the battle between MS and open source.  In fact, =
they all
  >   thought open source was fine.  Just didn't want to see it get =
mentioned
  >   by name is all as that might upset the workings of the "free =
market."=20
  >   They said it as if they were sure nobody in the Senate understood =
that a
  >   monopoly is the antithesis of a free market.  They reminded me an =
awful
  >   lot of you, Shupak.  Spineless little lying worms.
  >=20
  >   All this over a bill with only five lines of text which none of =
them
  >   really objected to except for one thing: it contained the magic =
phrase
  >   "open source."
  >=20
  >   Their message was clear: they are perfectly happy with the =
(monopoly)
  >   status quo.  Open source is OK, as long as it knows its place and
  >   doesn't try to ride in the front of the bus.
  >=20
  >   They are terrified of competition and are willing to spend any =
amount of
  >   money, expend any effort, to avoid it.  But hey, cowardice has =
always
  >   been your hallmark trait, hasn't it Shupak?
  >=20
  >=20
  >=20
  >   =20
  >   On Fri, 09 May 2003 18:11:35 -0700,  wrote:
  >=20
  >   >    See
  >   >    =
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance/etest.m=
spx.
  >   >     For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much =
as 84%
  >   >    faster than Windows 2000 Server in the benchmark results.
  >   >=20
  >   >    You're obviously not much into doing even the most trivial of
  >   >    research for your "articles".  The benchmark is
available =
from the
  >   >    same VeriTest page as linux comparison
  >   >    (http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).
  >   >=20
  >   >    As for your rigged comment, are you so desparate that this is =
the
  >   >    best you can do?  Do you have some demonstratably non-rigged
  >   >    benchmarks which you believe refute these.
  >   >=20
  >   > Rich
  >   >=20
  >   >=20
  >   >   "Joe Barr"  wrote in message
  >   >   news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com... On Fri, 09 =
May
  >   >   2003 20:20:17 -0400, Geo. wrote:
  >   >=20
  >   >   One other thing.  How about comparative benchmarks between W2K =
and
  >   >   W2K+3? If they don't show the same kind of performance =
increase,
  >   >   that proves the tests were rigged.
  >   >=20
  >   >   Do you know of any?   >   Transitional//EN">
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >  =

  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >    See    > =
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance=
/etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/perfor=
mance/etest.mspx. 
  >   > For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much as =
84%
  >   > faster than Windows 2000 Server in the benchmark =
results.
  >   >      > size=3D2>   You're obviously not much
into doing even =
the most
  >   > trivial of research for your "articles". 
The benchmark is
  >   > available from the same VeriTest page as linux comparison (   > =
href=3D"http://www.ve" target="new">http://www.ve=">http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.ve=
ritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).
  >   >      > size=3D2>   As for your rigged comment,
are you so =
desparate
  >   > that this is the best you can do?  Do you have some
  >   > demonstratably non-rigged benchmarks which you believe refute
  >   > these.  
  >   > Rich    > size=3D2> 
   > size=3D2> 
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = solid; > > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > "Joe Barr" < > = href=3D"warthawg{at}austin.rr.com>">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com> > > wrote in message > = href=3D"news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com...On > > Fri, 09 May 2003 20:20:17 -0400, Geo. wrote:One other > > thing. How about comparative benchmarks between W2K and = W2K+3? > > If they don't show the same kind of performance increase, = that > > proves thetests were rigged.Do you know of > > any? >=20 > -- > > > = > > > Do you consider any = benchmark > that demonstrates something you dislike as having the potential to = be > credible. If so, can you give several examples of credible > benchmarks that compare Microsoft products favorably to = competing > products particularly anything related to linux? > size=3D2> As for the rest of your drivel, what's the > matter? Are you so ahamed of yourself that you need to try to = change > the topic and post more lies and childish insults? = face=3DArial size=3D2> size=3D2>Rich >
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > "Joe Barr" < = href=3D"warthawg{at}austin.rr.com>">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com> > wrote in message = href=3D"news:pan.2003.05.10.01.40.38.63195{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.01.40.38.63195{at}austin.rr.com...Are > you taking a break from your Passport security duties, Mister > Shupak?Damn, a trillion dollar fine here and a trillion dollar = fine > there andit's bound to get even Bill Gates' attention, > eh?Let me rephrase my request. Are there any = benchmarks > from crediblesources? Microsoft most definitely does not = fit > into that category. Lyingassholes like you, Richard Shupak, = are a > large part of the reason forthat.By the way, MS scum = were > all over the Texas Senate chambers yesterday.They are = terrified, > they are pissing their pants, they are trembling infear, over = the > fact that a bill having to do with state software = purchasesmight > contain the phrase "open source."The whole a list of MS = shills > showed up: CompTIA, ACT, ISC, and the BSA.You would fit right = with > them. Each lied through their teetch, claimingneutrality = in > the battle between MS and open source. In fact, they > allthought open source was fine. Just didn't want to see = it > get mentioned byname is all as that might upset the workings = of the > "free market." Theysaid it as if they were sure nobody = in the > Senate understood that amonopoly is the antithesis of a free > market. They reminded me an awfullot of you, = Shupak. > Spineless little lying worms.All this over a bill with = only five > lines of text which none of themreally objected to except for = one > thing: it contained the magic phrase"open = source."Their > message was clear: they are perfectly happy with the > (monopoly)status quo. Open source is OK, as long as it = knows > its place and doesn'ttry to ride in the front of the > bus.They are terrified of competition and are willing to = spend > any amount ofmoney, expend any effort, to avoid it. But = hey, > cowardice has always beenyour hallmark trait, hasn't it > Shupak? On Fri, 09 May 2003 18:11:35 > -0700, wrote:> > See> = href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance= /etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/perfor= mance/etest.mspx.> > For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much as > 84%> faster than Windows 2000 Server in = the > benchmark results.> > You're = obviously > not much into doing even the most trivial = of> > research for your "articles". The benchmark is available = from > the> same VeriTest page as linux > comparison> ( = href=3D"http://www.ve" target="new">http://www.ve=">http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.ve= ritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).> > > As for your rigged comment, are you so > desparate that this is the> best you can > do? Do you have some demonstratably > non-rigged> benchmarks which you believe = refute > these.> > Rich> > > = "Joe > Barr" < = href=3D"warthawg{at}austin.rr.com>">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com> > wrote in message> = href=3D"news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com... > On Fri, 09 May> 2003 20:20:17 -0400, Geo. > wrote:> > One other thing. How = about > comparative benchmarks between W2K and> W2K+3? = If > they don't show the same kind of performance increase, > that> proves the tests were rigged.> > > Do you know of any?<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0> = Transitional//EN">> > <HTML><HEAD>> <META = http-equiv=3DContent-Type > content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1">> <META > content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.3790.0" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE>> </HEAD>> <BODY > bgColor=3D#ffffff>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial > size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; See <A> href=3D" = href=3D'http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance= /etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/perfor= mance/etest.mspx.&nbsp'>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver200= 3/evaluation/performance/etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowss= erver2003/evaluation/performance/etest.mspx</A>.&nbsp;&= gt; > For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much as > 84%> faster than Windows 2000 Server in the benchmark > results.</FONT></DIV>> <DIV><FONT = face=3DArial > size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> = <DIV><FONT > face=3DArial> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You're = obviously not > much into doing even the most> trivial of research for your > "articles".&nbsp; The benchmark is> available from the = same > VeriTest page as linux comparison (<A> href=3D" = href=3D'http://www.ve" target="new">http://www.ve=">http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.ve= ritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).http://www.verit= est.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.veritest.com/clients/re= ports/microsoft/</A>).</FONT></DIV>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial > size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> = <DIV><FONT > face=3DArial> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; As for your = rigged > comment, are you so desparate> that this is the best you = can > do?&nbsp; Do you have some demonstratably> non-rigged > benchmarks which you believe refute > these.</FONT></DIV>> <DIV><FONT = face=3DArial > size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> = <DIV><FONT > face=3DArial> size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial> > size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> = <DIV><FONT > face=3DArial> = size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;> PADDING-LEFT: = 5px; > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;> = MARGIN-RIGHT: > 0px">> <DIV>"Joe Barr" > &lt;<A> href=3D" = href=3D'warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'=">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'= > t;> > wrote in message <A> href=3D" = href=3D'news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com...On'>news:pan.2003.05.10.00.= 43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.r= r.com</A>...</DIV>On> > Fri, 09 May 2003 20:20:17 -0400, Geo. = wrote:<BR><BR>One > other> thing.&nbsp; How about comparative > benchmarks between W2K and W2K+3?> <BR>If = they > don't show the same kind of performance increase, > that> proves the<BR>tests were > rigged.<BR><BR>Do you know of> > = any?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>-- > --=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0E8D_01C31668.0C408270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None, right. In = other words, no=20 benchmark that compares Microsoft products favorably to others is one = you would=20 consider as credible. What a surprise. Who would have=20 guessed? Rich "Joe Barr" <warthawg{at}austin.rr.com>">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com> = wrote in=20 message news:pan.2003.= 05.10.03.04.15.532297{at}austin.rr.com...You=20 pathetic fool. Do you think I am the only one who distrusts = claims=20 byMicrosoft? What a hoot. Your firm is the most = despised on=20 the face ofthe earth. It got that distinction the old = fashioned way:=20 you earned it.On Fri, 09 May 2003 19:44:32 = -0700, =20 wrote:> Do you consider any benchmark = that=20 demonstrates something you dislike> as having = the=20 potential to be credible. If so, can you give=20 several> examples of credible benchmarks that = compare=20 Microsoft products> favorably to competing = products=20 particularly anything related to linux?> = > As=20 for the rest of your drivel, what's the matter? Are you so=20 ahamed> of yourself that you need to try to = change=20 the topic and post more lies> and childish=20 insults?> > Rich> > "Joe Barr" = <warthawg{at}austin.rr.com>">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com> = wrote in=20 message> news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.01.40.38.63195{at}austin.rr.com...>=20 > Are you taking a break from your Passport = security=20 duties, Mister> Shupak? Damn, a trillion dollar = fine here=20 and a trillion dollar fine> there and it's bound to = get=20 even Bill Gates' attention, eh?> > Let me = rephrase=20 my request. Are there any benchmarks from = credible> =20 sources? Microsoft most definitely does not fit into that=20 category.> Lying assholes like you, Richard Shupak, = are a=20 large part of the reason> for that.>=20 > By the way, MS scum were all over the Texas = Senate=20 chambers yesterday.> They are terrified, they are = pissing=20 their pants, they are trembling in> fear, over the = fact=20 that a bill having to do with state software> = purchases=20 might contain the phrase "open source."> > = The whole=20 a list of MS shills showed up: CompTIA, ACT, ISC, and the=20 BSA.> You would fit right with them. Each = lied=20 through their teetch, claiming> neutrality in the = battle=20 between MS and open source. In fact, they = all> =20 thought open source was fine. Just didn't want to see it get=20 mentioned> by name is all as that might upset the = workings=20 of the "free market." > They said it as if they = were sure=20 nobody in the Senate understood that a> monopoly is = the=20 antithesis of a free market. They reminded me an=20 awful> lot of you, Shupak. Spineless little = lying=20 worms.> > All this over a bill with only = five lines=20 of text which none of them> really objected to = except for=20 one thing: it contained the magic phrase> "open=20 source."> > Their message was clear: they = are=20 perfectly happy with the (monopoly)> status = quo. Open=20 source is OK, as long as it knows its place and> = doesn't=20 try to ride in the front of the bus.> > They = are=20 terrified of competition and are willing to spend any amount=20 of> money, expend any effort, to avoid it. = But hey,=20 cowardice has always> been your hallmark trait, = hasn't it=20 Shupak?> > > > =20 > On Fri, 09 May 2003 18:11:35 -0700, = wrote:>=20 > > See> =20 > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance= /etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/perfor= mance/etest.mspx.> =20 > For file server performance, Windows = Server 2003=20 is as much as 84%> > faster = than=20 Windows 2000 Server in the benchmark results.> > = > > You're obviously not much = into=20 doing even the most trivial of> = > =20 research for your "articles". The benchmark is available from=20 the> > same VeriTest page as = linux=20 comparison> > (http://www.ve" target="new">http://www.ve=">http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.ve= ritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).> =20 > > > As for your rigged = comment,=20 are you so desparate that this is the> =20 > best you can do? Do you have some = demonstratably=20 non-rigged> > benchmarks which = you=20 believe refute these.> > > = >=20 Rich> > > > = > =20 > "Joe Barr" <warthawg{at}austin.rr.com>">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com> = wrote in=20 message> > news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com...=20 On Fri, 09 May> > 2003 20:20:17 = -0400, Geo.=20 wrote:> > > > = One=20 other thing. How about comparative benchmarks between W2K=20 and> > W2K+3? If they don't show the = same=20 kind of performance increase,> > = that proves=20 the tests were rigged.> > > =20 > Do you know of any?<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC = "-//W3C//DTD HTML=20 4.0> > =20 Transitional//EN">> >=20 <HTML><HEAD>> > <META=20 http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html;=20 charset=3Diso-8859-1">> > <META = content=3D"MSHTML=20 6.00.3790.0" name=3DGENERATOR>=20 <STYLE></STYLE>> >=20 </HEAD>> > <BODY=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff>> > <DIV><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; See <A> > = href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance= /etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/perfor= mance/etest.mspx.&nbsp'>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver200= 3/evaluation/performance/etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowss= erver2003/evaluation/performance/etest.mspx</A>.&nbsp;&= gt; =20 > For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much as=20 84%> > faster than Windows 2000 Server in the = benchmark=20 results.</FONT></DIV>> > = <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> = <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial> > size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; = You're=20 obviously not much into doing even the most> > = trivial=20 of research for your "articles".&nbsp; The benchmark=20 is> > available from the same VeriTest page as = linux=20 comparison (<A> > href=3D"http://www.ve" target="new">http://www.ve=">http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.ve= ritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).http://www.verit= est.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.veritest.com/clients/re= ports/microsoft/</A>).</FONT></DIV>> &n= bsp;=20 > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial> > size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; = As for your=20 rigged comment, are you so desparate> > that = this is the=20 best you can do?&nbsp; Do you have some> >=20 demonstratably non-rigged benchmarks which you believe=20 refute> > these.</FONT></DIV>=20 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>> = >=20 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>=20 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial> >=20 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial> >=20 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;> > PADDING-LEFT: = 5px;=20 MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;> = >=20 MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">> > = <DIV>"Joe=20 Barr" &lt;<A> > href=3D"warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'=">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'= > t;> =20 > wrote in message <A> = > =20 href=3D"news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com...On'>news:pan.2003.05.10.00.= 43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.r= r.com</A>...</DIV>On> =20 > Fri, 09 May 2003 20:20:17 -0400, Geo.=20 wrote:<BR><BR>One other> = > =20 thing.&nbsp; How about comparative benchmarks between W2K and=20 W2K+3?> > <BR>If they don't = show the=20 same kind of performance increase, that> = > =20 proves the<BR>tests were rigged.<BR><BR>Do you know=20 of> > =20 any?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>>=20 > --<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20 Transitional//EN">> <HTML><HEAD>> = <META=20 http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1">>=20 <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.3790.0" name=3DGENERATOR>=20 <STYLE></STYLE>> </HEAD>> <BODY=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you consider any benchmark> = that=20 demonstrates something you dislike as having the potential to = be>=20 credible.&nbsp; If so, can you give several examples of = credible>=20 benchmarks that compare Microsoft products favorably&nbsp;to=20 competing> products particularly anything related to=20 linux?</FONT></DIV>> <DIV><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; As for the rest = of your=20 drivel, what's the> matter?&nbsp; Are you so ahamed of = yourself=20 that you need to try to change> the topic and post more lies = and=20 childish insults?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT> = face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> = <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial> size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV> = <DIV><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>>=20 <BLOCKQUOTE> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; = MARGIN-RIGHT:=20 0px">> <DIV>"Joe Barr"=20 &lt;<A> href=3D"warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'=">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'= > t;> =20 wrote in message <A> href=3D"news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.01.40.38.63195{at}austin.rr.com...Are'>news:pan.2003.05.1= 0.01.40.38.63195{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.05.10.01.40.38.63195{at}aus= tin.rr.com</A>...</DIV><BR>Are> = you taking a break from your Passport security duties,=20 Mister> Shupak?<BR>Damn, a trillion dollar = fine here=20 and a trillion dollar fine> there and<BR>it's = bound=20 to get even Bill Gates' attention,> =20 eh?<BR><BR>Let me rephrase my request.&nbsp; Are there = any=20 benchmarks> from = credible<BR>sources?&nbsp;=20 Microsoft most definitely does not fit> into that = category.=20 Lying<BR>assholes like you, Richard Shupak, are = a> =20 large part of the reason for<BR>that.<BR><BR>By the = way, MS=20 scum were> all over the Texas Senate chambers=20 yesterday.<BR>They are terrified,> they are = pissing=20 their pants, they are trembling in<BR>fear, over = the> =20 fact that a bill having to do with state software=20 purchases<BR>might> contain the phrase "open=20 source."<BR><BR>The whole a list of MS = shills> =20 showed up: CompTIA, ACT, ISC, and the BSA.<BR>You would fit = right=20 with> them.&nbsp; Each lied through their = teetch,=20 claiming<BR>neutrality in> the battle between = MS and=20 open source.&nbsp; In fact, they> = all<BR>thought=20 open source was fine.&nbsp; Just didn't want to see = it> =20 get mentioned by<BR>name is all as that might upset the workings = of=20 the> "free market."&nbsp; They<BR>said it = as if=20 they were sure nobody in the> Senate understood = that=20 a<BR>monopoly is the antithesis of a free> =20 market.&nbsp; They reminded me an awful<BR>lot of you,=20 Shupak.&nbsp;> Spineless little lying=20 worms.<BR><BR>All this over a bill with only=20 five> lines of text which none of = them<BR>really=20 objected to except for one> thing: it contained the = magic=20 phrase<BR>"open = source."<BR><BR>Their> =20 message was clear: they are perfectly happy with = the> =20 (monopoly)<BR>status quo.&nbsp; Open source is OK, as long = as it=20 knows> its place and doesn't<BR>try to ride = in the=20 front of the> bus.<BR><BR>They are = terrified of=20 competition and are willing to spend> any amount=20 of<BR>money, expend any effort, to avoid it.&nbsp; But=20 hey,> cowardice has always been<BR>your = hallmark=20 trait, hasn't it> =20 Shupak?<BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>On = Fri, 09=20 May 2003 18:11:35> -0700,&nbsp;=20 = wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;>&= nbsp; =20 See<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = <A> =20 href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance= /etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/perfor= mance/etest.mspx.&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp'= >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance/etest.= mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performanc= e/etest.mspx</A>.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&a= mp;nbsp;> =20 For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much=20 as> = 84%<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 faster than Windows 2000 Server in the> benchmark=20 results.<BR>&gt; = <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 You're obviously> not much into doing even the most = trivial=20 of<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;> = research for your "articles".&nbsp; The benchmark is available=20 from> = the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 same VeriTest page as linux> =20 comparison<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 (<A> href=3D"http://www.ve" target="new">http://www.ve=">http://www.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.ve= ritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/).&gt'>http://www.verite= st.com/clients/reports/microsoft/">http://www.veritest.com/clients/rep= orts/microsoft/</A>).<BR>&gt;> =20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As for your rigged = comment,=20 are you so> desparate that this is=20 the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; best you=20 can> do?&nbsp; Do you have some=20 demonstratably> =20 non-rigged<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; benchmarks = which=20 you believe refute> these.<BR>&gt;=20 <BR>&gt; Rich<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Joe> Barr"=20 &lt;<A> href=3D"warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'=">mailto:warthawg{at}austin.rr.com">warthawg{at}austin.rr.com&gt'= > t;> =20 wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 <A> href=3D"news:pan.2003.0= 5.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.comnews:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}= austin.rr.com">news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com</A<= /A>>...> =20 On Fri, 09 May<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2003 20:20:17 = -0400,=20 Geo.> wrote:<BR>&gt;=20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; One other thing.&nbsp; How=20 about> comparative benchmarks between W2K=20 and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; W2K+3? = If> they=20 don't show the same kind of performance increase,> =20 that<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; proves the tests were=20 rigged.<BR>&gt;> =20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you know of = any?&lt;!DOCTYPE=20 HTML PUBLIC> "-//W3C//DTD HTML=20 4.0<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 Transitional//EN"&gt;<BR>&gt;> =20 &lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;<BR>&gt; = &lt;META=20 http-equiv=3DContent-Type> content=3D"text/html;=20 charset=3Diso-8859-1"&gt;<BR>&gt; = &lt;META> =20 content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.3790.0" = name=3DGENERATOR&gt;> =20 &lt;STYLE&gt;&lt;/STYLE&gt;<BR>&gt;=20 &lt;/HEAD&gt;<BR>&gt; = &lt;BODY> =20 bgColor=3D#ffffff&gt;<BR>&gt; = &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20 face=3DArial> = size=3D2&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; See=20 &lt;A<BR>&gt; href=3D"<A> =20 = href=3D'http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance= /etest.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/per= formance/etest.mspx</A>.&amp;nbsp'>http://www.microsoft.com/= windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance/etest.mspx"&gt;http://www.mi= crosoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/performance/etest.mspx&lt;/A= &gt;.&amp;nbsp</A>;<BR>&gt;> =20 For file server performance, Windows Server 2003 is as much=20 as> 84%<BR>&gt; faster than Windows 2000 = Server=20 in the benchmark> =20 results.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial> =20 = size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT> =20 face=3DArial<BR>&gt; = size=3D2&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; You're=20 obviously not> much into doing even the=20 most<BR>&gt; trivial of research for = your> =20 "articles".&amp;nbsp; The benchmark is<BR>&gt; available = from=20 the same> VeriTest page as linux comparison=20 (&lt;A<BR>&gt; href=3D"<A> =20 = href=3D' .veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/</A>).</FONT></DIV= '> w.veritest.com/clients/reports/microsoft/&lt;/A&gt;).&lt;/FON= T&gt;&lt;/DIV</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;> &n= bsp;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial> =20 = size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT> =20 face=3DArial<BR>&gt; = size=3D2&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As for=20 your rigged> comment, are you so=20 desparate<BR>&gt; that this is the best you = can> =20 do?&amp;nbsp; Do you have some demonstratably<BR>&gt;=20 non-rigged> benchmarks which you believe=20 refute> =20 these.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial> =20 = size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT> =20 face=3DArial<BR>&gt;=20 = size=3D2&gt;Rich&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;>&nbs= p; =20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20 face=3DArial<BR>&gt;> =20 = size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;=20 &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT> =20 face=3DArial<BR>&gt;=20 = size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;> =20 &lt;BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;<BR>&gt; = PADDING-LEFT:=20 5px;> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px=20 solid;<BR>&gt; MARGIN-RIGHT:> =20 0px"&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &lt;DIV&gt;"Joe=20 Barr"> =20 &amp;lt;&lt;A<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 href=3D"<A> =20 = href=3D' ;&amp;gt'> .com&lt;/A&gt;&amp;gt</A>;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&= amp;nbsp;> =20 wrote in message &lt;A<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 href=3D"<A> =20 = href=3D'news:pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com">news:pan.200= 3.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com</A>...</DIV>On'>news:= pan.2003.05.10.00.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com"&gt;news:pan.2003.05.10.0= 0.43.54.97025{at}austin.rr.com&lt;/A&gt;...&lt;/DIV&gt;On<= ;/A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;> =20 Fri, 09 May 2003 20:20:17 -0400, Geo.=20 wrote:&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;One> =20 other<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; thing.&amp;nbsp; How = about=20 comparative> benchmarks between W2K and=20 W2K+3?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;BR&gt;If=20 they> don't show the same kind of performance=20 increase,> = that<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 proves the&lt;BR&gt;tests were> =20 rigged.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Do you know=20 of<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;> =20 = any?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&am= p;lt;/HTML&gt;<BR><BR>-->=20 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>--=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0E8D_01C31668.0C408270-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
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