From: "Rich" 

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   I see you try to change the topic instead of support your repeated =
bogus claims.  I hope you at least tried to better yourself by reading =
the HTML and CSS standards.  This would help keep you from putting your =
foot in your mouth again in the future.

Rich

  "Adam"
 wrote in =
message news:45c87328{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    Don't ask me but your definition of crap includes standard=20
  > compliant.  It appears that you use the term "crap" for things you =
wish=20
  > to whine about without regard to other factors like standards.
  > =20

  What complete & utter bollox. Stds compliant? While being built to =
cope=20
  with IE6'es completely arbitrary handling of "standards"???

  ROFL.

  So IE 6 is standards compliant in it's handling of CSS is it?

  >    MsoNormal is the name of the HTML/CSS class.  I'll refer you to =
the=20
  > HTML and CSS standards for a description of how this works.  The =
name=20
  > doesn't matter.  It could have been AdamIsAnIdiot and it would still =
be=20
  > standards compliant.  Assuming the presence of a class when not =
declared=20
  > is a violation of the standards.  Again, I'll refer you to the HTML =
and=20
  > CSS standards for a description of how this works.
  > =20

  Oh gosh don't refer it to me, try referring it to you IE6 team coz=20
  they're the ones who built the PoS.

  gee here is someone else who seems to have noticed the same thing:

  http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html

  "Without a doubt, the biggest challenge I encounter each time is in=20
  wrangling Microsoft=92s Internet Explorer browser. This devil does not =

  play fair. It often follows no rules, and its behavior defies all =
common=20
  logic. It will double margins for no apparent reason. Borders =
disappear,=20
  62 pixels magically turn into 143 pixels. It dodges left when other=20
  browsers go right. I=92ve decided to call this phenomenon =93the IE =
Factor=94.=20
  (Those familiar with authoring DHTML four or five years ago already =
know=20
  where I=92m headed with this.)"

  >    I was describing Word 2003 though the same applies to Word 2007.  =
I=20
  > give you the html element with the XML namespaces and you try to =
refute=20
  > this by excerpting some other portion of a document.  Are you dim?  =
You=20
  > fly totally off the handle with your comment
  > =20

  Hardly. Your diversion was so obvious that it's humorous. You witter =
on=20
  about namespaces where the namespaces are not used given that the HTML =

  part is in the default i.e. no namespace area.


  >=20
  >     HTML 4 stuff is simply using no
  >     namespace/default namespace i.e. the comment is completely =
irrelevant &
  >     as usual a canard.
  >=20
  > Look at the html element again and note that a default namespace is=20
  > provided.
  >


  Well full marks for spotting the obvious. Pity you had to try to =
divert=20
  onto such an obvious ruse. So the HTML has no/the default namspace ie. =
a=20
   is simply a  . Gee whiz.

  Adam
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   I see you
try to change =
the topic=20
instead of support your repeated bogus claims.  I hope you at
least = tried=20
to better yourself by reading the HTML and CSS standards.  This =
would help=20
keep you from putting your foot in your mouth again in the =
future.
 
Rich
 

  "Adam" <particl=">mailto:particle{at}SomewhereOnTheOuterEdgeOfTheUniverse.com">particl=
e{at}SomewhereOnTheOuterEdgeOfTheUniverse.com>=20
  wrote in message news:45c87328{at}w3.nls.net...Ri=
ch=20
  wrote:>    Don't ask me but
your definition of =
crap=20
  includes standard > compliant.  It appears that you use =
the term=20
  "crap" for things you wish > to whine about
without regard to =
other=20
  factors like standards.> 
What complete & =
utter=20
  bollox. Stds compliant? While being built to cope with IE6'es =
completely=20
  arbitrary handling of
"standards"???ROFL.So IE
6 is =
standards=20
  compliant in it's handling of CSS is
it?>    =

  MsoNormal is the name of the HTML/CSS class.  I'll refer you to =
the=20
  > HTML and CSS standards for a description of how this =
works.  The=20
  name > doesn't matter.  It could have been
AdamIsAnIdiot =
and it=20
  would still be > standards compliant.  Assuming the =
presence of a=20
  class when not declared > is a violation of the =
standards.  Again,=20
  I'll refer you to the HTML and > CSS standards for a =
description of how=20
  this works.>  Oh gosh don't
refer it to me, try =
referring=20
  it to you IE6 team coz they're the ones who built the =
PoS.gee here=20
  is someone else who seems to have noticed the same
thing:http://w" target="new">http://w=">http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html">http://w=
ww.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html"Without=20
  a doubt, the biggest challenge I encounter each time is in =
wrangling=20
  Microsoft=92s Internet Explorer browser. This devil does not play =
fair. It=20
  often follows no rules, and its behavior defies all common logic. =
It will=20
  double margins for no apparent reason. Borders disappear, 62 =
pixels=20
  magically turn into 143 pixels. It dodges left when other browsers =
go=20
  right. I=92ve decided to call this phenomenon =93the IE Factor=94. =
(Those=20
  familiar with authoring DHTML four or five years ago already know =
where=20
  I=92m headed with
this.)">    I
was =
describing Word=20
  2003 though the same applies to Word 2007.  I >
give you =
the html=20
  element with the XML namespaces and you try to refute > this by =

  excerpting some other portion of a document.  Are you dim?  =
You=20
  > fly totally off the handle with your
comment> =20
  Hardly. Your diversion was so obvious that it's humorous. You =
witter=20
  on about namespaces where the namespaces are not used given that =
the HTML=20
  part is in the default i.e. no namespace
area.>=20
  >     HTML 4 stuff
is simply using=20
  no>    
namespace/default namespace i.e. =
the=20
  comment is completely irrelevant
&>     =
as=20
  usual a canard.> > Look at the html
element again and =
note that=20
  a default namespace is >
provided.>Well full =
marks=20
  for spotting the obvious. Pity you had to try to divert onto such =
an=20
  obvious ruse. So the HTML has no/the default namspace ie. a =
<p> is=20
  simply a <p> . Gee
whiz.Adam

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