Ray Gordon wrote:

> My thanks to the idiot gurus who are spilling the beans, because this falls
> right into the anti-player's hands.

i really fail to see the mystique or even an upside for going to strip
clubs. perhaps it's because i don't drink and prefer women who are shy,
intelligent (if slightly nerdy, ok), yet beautiful. the rewards seem too
low for the degree of energy and more importantly, time, expended...but
to each his own i suppose...

so far you've been building up to a frantic finale on this but have
given nothing, ray. if you don't like embarrassment...stop reading this
message now because otherwise, it's going to pimp slap away at all your
secret masochistic urges and leave you in the fetal position, crying on
the floor.

Closing a stripper has never been
> easier thanks to them.
>
> How does it work?  Well, when you don't tip a dancer, she wants to know why,

when you don't tip a dancer, she walks over to where she *can get*
tipped.  funny, how you always leave that part out. must not suit your
current rants and goofy mood swings. c'est la vie.

> and if you explain to her that if she's fucking other customers, there's no
> reason left for you to tip her.

and if you explain to her that tripe then there's no reason left for her
to not call for the bouncer to throw you out.

Then I give her the URLs for websites that
> teach "stripper seduction."

this one i like the best ray. why? because it shows me precisely just
how little (my money is on none) field testing you've done on this.

whip out the crying towel, mr. gordon, here it comes...

so you are saying that she is going to just stop whatever she is doing
in her act, take the information from you, (in lieu of money, riiiiight!
hehehehe) and act upon it.

do you wholeheartedly believe that people here are going to just fall
for that?

> They only put up token resistance,

such as the surly customer being tossed out of the strip club at this
point, perhaps? you keep presuming with no proof of any of it actually
working, being put forth.

your record on truth in infamous. you have yet to produce a rate of one
molecule of truth to each 10,000 juggernaught proportion of any lie that
you spew. you must pardon us all if you feel that all you say must be
taken as gospel without examination. homie ain't playing that.

  with the knee-jerk reaction that the
> gurus are lying, but that frame is easy to destroy just by holding your
> ground

again, ground that in 99 out of 100 strip clubs is separated from the
bottom of your shoes by th ebouncer as you are strewn into the street at
this point. even before this point, knowing your masterful conversation
technique.

(since the burden is on them to get your money, the status quo favors
> the anti-player).  A simple "let HIM tip you since you're fucking HIM"
> suffices.

it suffices just fine to get the doorman to show you the door, man.
perhaps even to be lightly tapped about the head and shoulders with any
type of club the bouncer has at the club. still got nothing there, ray.

Since "he" (the guy they fuck) isn't tipping them, why should the
> guys who aren't?  After all, men aren't stupid, even if they may trust a
> lying female too often.


and this is the more obvious detour (detectable by even the most
clueless of newbies) from getting a man what he wants from a woman that
ray has presented today for our amusement. whole lot of nothing going on
there, ray.

> Another good framebuster here is to tell her "Men don't have to pay for
> rejection; we can get that at a normal club."

and this is supposed to work how? you've gotta be kidding me. be honest
for once in your life and give yourself credit enough for at least being
smart enough to never actually believe this scheme of your's would
actually work in the real world on real women. even if your do
dishonestly (and failingly) try to teach it to others.

> As I've said before, strippers view players the way casinos view
> card-counters.  The collision this time won't be pleasant.

does it sound like the collision of your skull against a parking meter
as you are flung head first from the strip club by security?

> NOTE: this is a great tactic for shy men because strippers have to approach
> you at their clubs, and they have to win you over to get your money (which
> of course they won't get because they chose to fuck some idiot player).


he aimed it at the clueless newbies. i should have known it. still got
nothing at all and no credibility, ray.

like them apples, ray? i got plenty more where those came from.



aardvark



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