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from: `avenger` me{at}avengers.Co
date: 2005-02-13 06:45:00
subject: Re: Verbal abuse and American feminism

"Hyerdahl"  wrote in message
news:1108235102.439719.177820{at}g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> ilya_shambat2004{at}yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Hyerdahl wrote:
> > >
>  Physical abuse is much easier to discern and to punish, than any
> > > perceived verbal or mental abuse.
> >
> > Here's where you show your callousness: "Perceived."
There is such a
> > thing as real verbal and mental abuse, and it has nothing to do with
> > perceptions and everything to do with fact.
>
> Verbal and mental abuse has EVERYTHING to do with perceptions.  Some
> people might find mental abuse if she doesn't have dinner on the table
> at six.  Mental abuse is all about perception.
> >
> > > The old child's rhyme says "sticks and stones will break my bones
> but
> > > names will never hurt me".
> >
> > That's very wrong. I repeat. I hear it again and again, from women
> who
> > have been in bad situations, that it was the verbal and mental abuse
> > that hurt far more than did physical violence. Therefore, out of
> > deference to opinion of the women, I conclude that verbal abuse is
> just
> > as wrong, if not more so, than physical abuse, and that it must be
> > prosecuted in the same manner if the court system is to maintain any
> > semblance of integrity.
>
> While I never stated that verbal abuse is 'right' I also don't find it
> as compelling a reason as physical abuse to immediately arrest a
> person.

No one should be arrested based on an allegation. It's the alleged victim's
duty to file a complaint and then prove it beyond a doubt in court. Merely
pointing a finger at someone means nothing girls.




 And the cop shops seem to agree with that.
> >
> > > > I am a romantic idealist.
>
> > > Yes, but you appear to be very one-sided in your approach.
> >
> > Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I repeat: I would treat a woman
> who
> > does wrong and the man who does wrong in the same manner.
>
> Ah, but "wrongness" appears based on what's between the legs of the
> person and not on a generic wrongness.
> >
> > > You want to falsely convict a man of rape?> Knowing what such men
> go
> > > through, I'll treat you the way I would treat
> > > > a murderer or a brutal rapist.
> > >
> > > Do you KNOW a woman who has done so?
> >
> > For over 50 stories in media of that happening, check Waldo Weaver of
> > soc.men.
>
> Is that Ted ?  :-)  Well, I'm clearly telling you that if you treat
> women differently than men you've overstepped your mark.  Women are
> 'treated' to the same level of punishment for false testimony as men
> are.

That's absolutely a lie. Besides, how many females are behind bars waiting
trial  based on some man's allegation?



> >
> > >  You want to nag and be verbally abusive> to your man day in and
> day
> > > out? Knowing what many women have said about the perniciousness of
> > > mental abuse, I'll treat you the way I would  treat a man who beats
> > his > wife every day.
> > >
> > > Again, you don't get to treat women any way you like.  The law
> > decides> and they don't treat nagging wives the same way they do
> spousal
> > > batterers.

Marriage is PRIVATE. What goes on inside it STAYS inside it and is not open
to the scrutiny of perverted cops, feminists or judges.



> >
> > Then that's a problem with the law. Nagging wives do just as much
> harm
> > as do brutes, and what's worse they spoil the place for other women.
>
> Nonsense!  Many men want to be mothered, so they accept a nag as a
> spouse.  There was an old Italian film star who claimed she would never
> marry since she didn't want to become a nag, inferring that most men
> were children in need of a nagging mother

You're full of shit idiot.  Is that how you were brought up in Podunk? With
a shrew bitch for a mother and a drunken grandpappy.



..  AND, it is not a problem
> with the law since speaking and free speach are appropriate forms of
> communicating while hitting is not.
>
>
> >
> > >  You want to write misandrist garbage and spread hatred? I'll treat
> > you> the way I would treat a> neo-Nazi.
> > >
> > > But...who really cares?  You have no effect on law.

As jurors we MAKE the law  haha



> >
> > Is law almighty? Is there no other way for people to express their
> > likes and dislikes?
>
> Sure, but your expression plus $4.00 will still only buy you a cup of
> coffee.
>
> >
> > This is litigiousness elevated to status of religion.
>
> I don't give a care about what religion your practice; religion also
> has no real effect on law, here in the west.

Ok wicca wacko
>
>
> It is more intelligent to elevate class struggle to the status of
> religion than it> is to elevate litigiousness to the same level.
> >
>
> You can keep your wine soaked wafers and I'll keep my law; how's that?
> :-)

You mean MEN'S law.



>
> > > > Want equality with men? Know what that requires of you. And know
> > that> > > the many, many women who by choice prefer the
traditional
> roles -> women> who find it more close to their hearts to take care of
> their man than > compete with him - whatever the party line of women's
> > self-appointed> spokespeople, have absolute right to their choices
> (if, that is, the > women's self-appointed spokespeople believe what
> they claim to espose
> > > -
> > > >> >
> > > Yes, dear; women are chosing, and they don't seem to be choosing
> you
> > or> men like you.  Even women in Japan (well known for sexism)

Have you actually ever been out of Podunk?


 the
> women are postponing marriage in order to do paid work.

Good. They can support their parents with the money they earn.



>
> >
> > Men like me? I don't know any.
>
> Well, you may have a different crease that many sexists here but you
> are still a sexist with your sheep's clothing removed.  I mean only a
> pig would hint that women false accusers should be treated differently
> then men false accusers.

We know from 1 million years experience that females and children have a
distorted sense of reality and can never really be believed.



>
>
> >> As for women's choice, I have had some of the most spectacular, most
> > talented, most erotic, most exciting, most loving and caring and wise
> > and sexy women that live in America.
> >
> Save your fiction for hookers.

Erm, that just what he said. Women in America lol


>
> > You may not choose me; but neither do I choose you.
> >
> > Nor will I.
>
> "Choose" me?  Hon, you don't even know if I'm human.  :-)
> >,
>




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