"Laura"  wrote in message
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>
> flinrius wrote:
>>
>> If Dad shells out X, Mom should shell out X also with receipts...now
> that's
>> fair regardless of who has custody.
>
> I dunno...I think its kind of sad that some men are so pissed off at
> women in general that they would actually think its 'fair' to nickel
> and dime their children.
>
> Raising kids is expensive and I think even under all that bitterness
> and anger you carry, you know this.
>
> Maybe we *should* provide receipts, for every last dime ... just so you
> can see how much it does cost and see that C.S. doesn't even come close
> to covering 1/2 of what it costs to raise a child.  Does that mean
> you'd actually pay more if you found that to be true?  Doubt it.  You'd
> probably think you were making out in the deal and leave it at that.
> Doesn't matter how it affects the children, does it?
>
> I was actually talking to my BF earlier about what expenses I could cut
> ... perhaps even getting rid of cable TV ... because its just not a
> necessity.  I'm struggling to make ends meet.  I'm racking my brain
> figuring ways to save just so we can survive.  Sure...my kids don't
> *need* cable TV.  Would it actually make you feel better to know that
> your ex was struggling financially while trying to raise *your*
> children?
>
> My husband left the marriage debt free courtesy of the 10K he stole.
> He bought himself a brand new car the month before he left.  I drive a
> 1994 that breaks down every 3 months (the car I drive with all three of
> my children).  He takes lavish trips to Europe every few months or so
> to see his GF.  My children and I don't take vacations.  Can't afford
> it.
>
> And, you think I should provide receipts?  Are you really so selfish,
> self-centered, bitter and angry that you wouldn't actually be happy to
> know that your kids don't have to wear hand-me-down clothes, that all
> of their basic needs are met...that they aren't being raised in
> poverty?
>
> Are you so pissed off at your ex that you would begrudge your children
> a decent standard of living?  A happy childhood?  Or is it just that
> you want to continue to control your ex while you're no longer married?
>
> Receipts, huh?  Yeah...I'll get right on that ... just as soon as I
> figure out how to pay for the clothes all three of my children will
> need this summer...and how to find the money for a reliable car...and
> to fill the oil tank in a few weeks to keep us warm....and...and..
>
> Oh, never mind.

Laura

I am sorry for the turmoil you are going through and NO it isn't fair to the
ones who are suffering, trying to provide a good life and I feel the pain in
your post. Your the type of person my heart goes out to.

What are the solutions? I think the number one solution would be the
education of our young men as soon as possible. I think boys need better
training and discipline. I think boys do not need to be drugged so they'll
sit still. I think we need more males in the earlier classes in school. Boys
need discipline, a code of honour, a reason to believe in themselves.
Having said that I also believe that girls need an attitude adjustment as
well. I seem to see an attitude in girls that says "We are superior" and we
can do antthing we damn well please.




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