On 05/28/2010 10:28 AM, Dave Drum -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 -=>> Ed Hulett wrote to Dave Drum <=-

 EH>>> Since that is all you do WRT anyone right of Mao, you have
no standing
 EH>>> to lecture anyone on this issue.

 DD>> What? Post a definition of ad hominem? Remind people of what is
 DD> going on?

 EH>> If you think your attacks on me or anyone else here is not ad hom, you
 EH>> are seriously delusional.

 DD>> BTW - the statement "Since that is all you do WRT anyone right of
 DD> Mao" is
 DD>> a scurrilous lie and merely your opinion - which probably smells as bad
 DD>> as your breath after a hard night of boozing with your boyfriends.

 EH>> Your "hard night of boozing with your boyfriends" comment is a
 EH>> scurrilous lie. I neither drink or have "boyfriends."

 DD> Too bad, You might have had a personality - and some friends. Are all your
 DD> friends girls?

You do like to twist things...

 EH>> You are full of ad hom.

To which you use more ad hom.

 DD> I doubt that you know or understand the meaning of the term ... so, in the
 DD> interests (but not hope) of educating you, here goes ....

 DD> An ad hominem, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin:
"argument toward
 DD> the person" or "argument against the person"), is an
attempt to persuade
 DD> which
 DD> links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person
 DD> advocating the premise. The ad hominem is a classic logical fallacy.

 DD> Ad hominem circumstantial points out that someone is in circumstances
 DD> such that
 DD> he is disposed to take a particular position. Ad hominem circumstantial
 DD> constitutes an attack on the bias of a source. This is fallacious because a
 DD> disposition to make a certain argument does not make the argument false;
 DD> this
 DD> overlaps with the genetic fallacy (an argument that a claim is incorrect
 DD> due to
 DD> its source).

 DD> Where the source taking a position seeks to convince us by a claim of
 DD> authority, or personal observation, observation of their circumstances may
 DD> reduce the evidentiary weight of the claims, sometimes to zero.

 DD> Gratuitous verbal abuse or "name-calling" itself is not
an argumentum ad
 DD> hominem or a logical fallacy. The fallacy only occurs if personal
 DD> attacks are
 DD> employed instead of an argument to devalue an argument by attacking the
 DD> peaker.

 DD> Just for your education, entertainment and aggrandisement.
 DD> Fiddle-dee-dee, old
 DD> sod.

Al of which you practice on a regular basis.

Ed

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