-=> MARK LEWIS wrote to ROSS CASSELL <=-

 DD>> Even if they can't they will attack you personally, you old lefty
 DD>> criminal biker dude, you.  Bv)=

 RC>> Too bad no one from BP will read his suggestion.

 ml> you might be surprised about that... they get thousands of suggestions
 ml> and many of them are the same as what their own people have come up
 ml> with...

 RC> I am sure the trained engineers have brain stormed alot of ideas,
 RC> from silly to sane.

 ML> i'm sure they have, too... but the point is that they do accept
 ML> suggestions from John Q. Public...

 RC> Wonder if any thought of a nuke?

 ML> dunno... they haven't mentioned it on their site... it could work, ya
 ML> know...

 ml> /me wonders if folk might be better off reading the content and
 ml> viewing the videos available on the BP site rather than sitting here
 ml> playing armchair quarterback without a clue :? :rolleyes:

 RC> With the enthusiasm Wayne shows in his suggestions, one might ask
 RC> him, if he has emailed the right people.

 ML> why hasn't someone, then? seems to me that too many revel too much in
 ML> taking potshots and shooting others down all the time... in fact,
 ML> that's all i see in all of the so called "political"
areas in fidonet
 :rolleyes:

There's a link at the Dept. of Energy web site. 

 RC> I still think his cryogenic idea was insane tho.. LOL

 ML> i don't know why... it is only about 30F down there at the well head...
 ML> they could freeze the mud they're pumping down there but i don't know
 ML> how...

They could guide a pipe into the well as they've doe with already at least 
twice sending liquid nitrogen or helium into the oil stream flash freezing it
which _might_ give them time enough to pump in heavy drilling mud to overcome
the force of the upwelling oil.

This idea seems somewhat more promising than the 'junk shot.'

I mean what do I know but has this junk shot worked in the past and if
so what's its track record?


 ML> what i thought was rather "facinating" was their
"junk shot" idea... in
 ML> this they pump all manner of stuff of varying sizes down into the BOP
 ML> to get it to stop up... things like pieces of tires, golf balls,
 ML> marbles, and such... the idea being to get large things in to the large
 ML> holes and then plug the smaller holes with the smaller items and so on
 ML> until it is all plugged up...

I don't see how a bunch of loose stuff is supposed to prevail against
the force of that oil rushing out of the well.
 
 ML> in any case, they have to stop the flow at the wellhead and then they
 ML> will be filling the borehole with cement to completely plug it... once
 ML> that's done, they will be abandoning that well for good... of course,
 ML> they're also boring two relief wells into the same shaft... depending
 ML> on how that goes, they may be able to use those relief well to continue
 ML> to harvest the oil product that is in that resevoir...

 ML> at least this oil isn't that thick sludge crap like what exxon released
 ML> in alaska...

Heres hoping *someone* comes up with something that works.
I don't really much care who.

If it's stopped today it's still an unprecidented environmental
disaster.

Hey it's kinda nice to engage in something other than countering 
personal attack, ISTR a time when that was the norm rather than the 
exception in fidonet.

Today ANY political echo seems to be nothing but a rabid flame echo :-(

I HAD announced some YEARS ago I'd intended to abandon ALL political echos
and DID SO however certain individuals followed me into other echos such 
as the Linux and fido_News echos dragging the exact same nonsense along 
with them that persists today.

So having seen most all other echos decline to near zero traffic I turned
this one back on only to hear that Dan Ceppa was unfortunately no longer 
the moderator here which under his moderation kept the personal 
bull down in here. 

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